Why Is Highlighting The Facts So Wrong?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53025305
Another one fired for daring not to get on the bandwagon.

[THECORBYLOON]

LADYCG, what level of meth was detected and was that level high? Could the chemical have been from another source?

[DTCwordfan]

don't worry, Douglas, someone's been on the raspberry juice or happy pills with the responses we have been getting.

[sanmac]

"Mr Fawkes, I do have to ask why are you down here at this time of night with a shed-load of explosives?"
"Well, actually, I'm about to blow up this building."
"In that case, I'm going to have to arrest you"
"No,no, you can't arrest me for something I'm about to do."
"OK, then, hurry up and do the blowing up so I can arrest you."
"Thanks, Gov."

[andy-hughes]

douglas - // Is that 'I'll provide it as soon as possible', 'no' or some other answer? //

Some other answer - can't be bothered to work out which one …

[douglas9401]

I'm sure Mr Hughes is TT, DTC, can't speak to his medication I'm afraid.

[andy-hughes]

sanmac - // "Mr Fawkes, I do have to ask why are you down here at this time of night with a shed-load of explosives?"
"Well, actually, I'm about to blow up this building."
"In that case, I'm going to have to arrest you"
"No,no, you can't arrest me for something I'm about to do."
"OK, then, hurry up and do the blowing up so I can arrest you."
"Thanks, Gov." //

That's your example? Seriously????

I am not talking clear and obvious intent here, I am talking a man who may or may not have been about to get into his car - if you think that's a comparable circumstance, then you are reaching well beyond anything I could take seriously for a moment.

[andy-hughes]

sanmac - // "Mr Fawkes, I do have to ask why are you down here at this time of night with a shed-load of explosives?"
"Well, actually, I'm about to blow up this building." //

That's where your analogy falls flat.

If Mr Fawkes had denied knowledge of the explosives, and how they got there, who knows what the outcome may have been - but condemning himself out of his own mouth does rather put a bit of a guilty aspect on his presence.

[andy-hughes]

douglas - // I'm sure Mr Hughes is TT, DTC, can't speak to his medication I'm afraid. //

I can, but it doesn't say much ...

[shoota]

Houston, someone has a problem...

[andy-hughes]

// Houston, someone has a problem... //

Douglas, shoota's speaking to you ..

Come on now guys, I'm off to bed, see you tomorrow, and let's make a deal to stick to the subject - whaddya say?

Goodnight all.

[sanmac]

Your response to LadyCG's post was: "It would be meth rather than Meths, but as I pointed out, you can't be arrested for something you may be about to do, and the possibility of meth consumption was not the subject of Mr Floyd's arrest." There is no mention of a car, and there is no mention of Mr Floyd, but you did say that "you" can't be arrested for something "you" may be about to do. Obviously, the word "you" in that context means the general "you". And yes, you can definitely be arrested for something that you are about to do. Do keep in mind that one purpose of a police force is to prevent a crime prior to it happening. Waiting for a crime to be committed and then arresting the criminal does not make a whole lot of sense...Well, to me and most people I would suspect.

[naomi24]

I haven't read all the posts but I agree with him. Nothing abhorrent in telling the truth.

[retrocop]

A Police Officer may arrest any one who he may suspect is about to commit an arrestable offence. Criminal Evidence Act .sec something . date another something. Well i've been retired 23 years I forget the section and date. :-(

[Old_Geezer]

No one is permitted to criticise the Emperor's new clothes.

[woofgang]

because it doesn't make it ok for a policemant to kill him

[douglas9401]

I think that's a wrap.

[retrocop]

sanmac
Sorry my friend I gave the wrong Act. Should have typed Criminal LAW Act and not Evidence Act. Here it is. I do recall the powers of arrest for police officer's quite well under the CLA. Arrest without warrant.
There are arrestable offences shown here and there offences that come with there own power of arrest. Generally an arrestable offence is one that carrys a sentence in excess of five years I seem to recall.

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necessary.
The Act states:
//(1) A constable may arrest without warrant –
• Anyone who is about to commit an offence
• Anyone who is in the act of committing an offence
• Anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be
about to commit an offence
• Anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be
committing an offence.
(2) If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an
offence has been committed, he may arrest without warrant, anyone
whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it. //

Note the 3rd clause down. ''suspects to be about to commit''

[sanmac]

Makes sense to me, and I imagine most people, Retro; however the resident ah implied that a crime has to be committed before an arrest can be made.

[Peter Pedant]

yes TTT I am refusing to get on the aryan bank latest white supremacy thread
and say it was correct he went
and good for business

[Peter Pedant]

isnt it all regualted by the codes of practice of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984
usu called PACE ?

cd be wrong - usually am - my excuse is that this is AB