Joshua Wong Writes To The Times (London)

[Peter Pedant]

Hello boys and girls:
Joshua wong is the previous head of the democracy movement and has previously served time.
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I thought that for a change I would ask a serious question - what do people think?
In view of fire walls I have laboriously typed up the letter,
which reads better than the majority of posts on here ( worf da effort den)
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and yes there is an uncapitalised sentence without a main verb and a hanging clause
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time for readers to show their colours !

[brainiac]

Time for Peter Pedant to post the link!

[Peter Pedant]

er.its here.oops my bad
Dear Sir,

As your leading article ( Jul 2 ) points out, the new national security law covers not only Hong Kong citizens but also freign nationals. Given its loosely defined terms, the law is prone to misuse or political manipulation. Although Beijing promised no "speech crime", protestors who put "Free HK" or "conscience" sticker on their phones were arrested for "inciting subversion" this week. while a man chanting "Long live Liverpool "was accused of inciting Hong Kong independence.

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Beijing tries to silence dissidents with fear, but fear will not ill our spirit of resistance and deetemination for democracy. Despite the higher cost of expressing open dissent, tens of thousands of Hongkongers took to the streets, vowing to continue our fight and never surrender. Altho our voices may no longer be heard,we hope the world will speak louder and defend democracy with more forceful efforts. Joshua Wong = former secretary general of Demisto

[aelmpvw]

hard to say without seeing a copy of the letter

[Peter Pedant]

blimey
thx for reading and answering pronto
I thought everyone wd think - oh god its that man again and pass on
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literals - - - kill for ill - fear will not kill
and deetermination is obviously a word that doesnt exist

thx again talent spotters !

[Peter Pedant]

// hard to say without seeing a copy of the letter//
well read it!

[Lie-in King]

I think the signature should say -

"...former secretary general of Demosisto"

Just trying to help.

[Peter Pedant]

and um any other thoughts besides that ?
( just trying get people to think)

[retrocop]

My only thoughts are,apart from the Liverpool reference, I have heard exactly the same said by Hong Kong protesters most nights on the ITV.
Only difference was their better spoken English was ruined by the spluttering from tear gas. Apart from that I read nothing new here worthy of any other comment. Most of us, by now,are aware of the agreements and conditions that have been broken by Bejing since Mr Patten handed back the colony.

[shoota]

Oh god its that man again, pass on.

[dannyk13]

Just exactly are you looking for PP? I think that most of us are aware of what is going on in Hong Kong and I for one deplore it.

[New Judge]

I don't know really what the people of Hong Kong expect. Did they really believe that the Chinese government would allow them to enjoy freedoms which the vast majority of the Chinese population could only dream of? Hong Kong is part of China. They need to accept that.

[woofgang]

Nj would you?

[woofgang]

What I think is that I am not surprised by what is happening. I think it will get worse and I wonder how the world will react. China used to need HK as its outlet for dealing with the Capitalist world. Now it doesn't.

[fender62]

britain rented hong kong...rented, you could say china renaged on the 50yr deal, but you can blame that on the protestors, did they think china would give hong kong independence, because the free world was watching..nah, china's a super power, after all it's there property.
do i care..nope, as long as china dont invade other countries.

[Peter Pedant]

// Just exactly are you looking for PP? //
er an answer that is slightly above the par of
"foo dere'll be fwee million of dem here dere will!"
and
"yeah dere will - an next week too!"
and
"will day bring Kung Flu hahahaha wid dem den?"

and so I thought it was fair enough to ask people what they thought

[Peter Pedant]

// britain rented hong kong...rented, you could say china renaged on the 50yr deal,//

um no - the island was ceded in perpetuity around 1854
and then the territories were rented for 100 y
and it was recognised by both sides that the island was not viable in any sense ( 'they just turn the water off') after return of the territories
so there was a little to negotiate

[Old_Geezer]

You need a speel chek

I think that the Chinese government are proving they are untrustworthy. Their word is not their bond and they're blatant about it. Any nation, any people, deserves better, but the masses seem powerless to change things. In some parts of the world only the military can force change.

One had hoped that, as Taiwan hasn't been invaded and brought to heel so far, that maybe China would see the value of Hong Kong as a wealth producer and not kill the goose that laid the golden eggs, regardless of what other Chinese citizens thought.

Ideology trumping common sense ? Or was the threat of revolution from the rest of China really that high that HK needed to be subsumed ?

[Peter Pedant]

// One had hoped that, ......that maybe China would see the value of Hong Kong as a wealth producer//

there is no need now as Shanghai - already completely compliant - can serve that purpose.

[Old_Geezer]

As an aside. I'm not a historian by any means, but I've always been puzzled as to why, if China was invaded and certain areas ceded, it somehow instead became a lease. If an area's been ceded then it's transferred ownership. How did the, limited time until return, get put in ?

[Old_Geezer]

If I had multiple incomes, I'd be wary of getting rid of one, or even severely curtailing it.