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DaisyBlack666 | 16:01 Tue 28th Jul 2020 | News
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For a long time I have been watching the trial of Vitaly Orlov/Norebo. Has anyone heard of this situation? If not, here's the source - https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2020/01/23/fishy-business-russian-tycoon-vitaly-orlov-faces-possible-loss-of-billionaire-status-as-london-court-battle-nears-its-end/ . In short, it turned out that the Russian billionaire made his fortune through dishonest machinations. But they couldn't hide it. New shocking details are revealed every day. In my opinion, the trial lasts a very long time. How do you think this will end? Justice will prevail? Will this situation affect the fishing business?
Although, as for me, no matter what problems the big bosses have, first of all the consumer will suffer.
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Whet I think is it’s highly questionable that this is being played out in a British court.
It’s foreign businessmen fighting amongst themselves and I doubt if “justice” as such comes into it
"dishonest machinations"
I wonder if I could pu tthat on my CV?
This post feels a little like spam, to be honest.
Or it’s Tugushev’s lawyer - or more likely relative - trying to drum up support :-)
I think it’s fair to say that the cod-consuming masses of Britain and further afield won’t be greatly affected - whether it goes in favour of Tweedledum or Tweedledee.
it does ich, but to what end?
Who knows ...
Assuming isn't Tugushev's etc etc :-)
I cannot make head or tail (pun intended) of this case. Dunno why This case it is being conducted in London when it is clearly under Russian jurisdiction.
They all sound like crooks and dodgy.
As for the result of the case - not bothered either way.
"A UK court recently concluded that even when there’s ample evidence demonstrating connections to another state, UK courts may nonetheless affirm their own jurisdiction, if there are at least some connections providing a basis to do so... According to the court, while the jurisdiction dispute generated a “depressingly vast amount of material” and “clearly left no stone unturned,” the evidence was sufficient for Tugushev to successfully resist Orlov’s challenge and demonstrate a “good arguable case” that Orlov was domiciled in England and, in turn, that the court had jurisdiction to hear Tugushev’s claims.

While the court found that Orlov spends the majority of his time in Russia, it nonetheless concluded that England is a “settled and usual place of abode” for Orlov on the basis of evidence that, among other things, Orlov owns two flats in England, had recently made significant payments in respect of the properties (although had spent just 56 days in England in 2017, and 25.5 days in England up to the July 23, 2018 freeze order)...
...there would seem to be no a priori reason why any plaintiff should not be allowed to sue in the jurisdiction seen as most favorable to advancing its claim... More recently, Canadian courts have confirmed their willingness to assert jurisdiction in novel circumstances,"

The more lucre the better?

Welcome to your first day on-board DaisyBlack666.

https://fcpablog.com/2019/04/16/practice-alert-uk-court-accepts-jurisdiction-in-hotly-contes/
//For a long time I have been watching the trial of Vitaly Orlov/Norebo//

Why?
// The more lucre the better?//

a lucre explanation

and wait! there is a strange silence - where are all the disembodied screams that we left the european union on just this point - to express our englishness and sovereignty and NOT to extend our largesse and justice to other countries

screams there are none - the commercial courts are very willing to hear international cases - there has to be some sort of lead-in, here two flats he owned
"Welcome to your first day on-board DaisyBlack666. "

Are you related?
"Are you related?"

Do you have to be related to a new member to welcome them to the forum ?

Russophobia and grudge combined, how interesting.
probably not....... although if you don't hear from me for a wee while the agents have got me
// Russophobia and grudge combined, how interesting.//

is vitaly's case vital ?

no russophobia and we all have grudges dear 7up
Ich was the one who spectac unearthed the actual transmissions of the crew that shot down the airliner = which had made it onto the internet somewhere

as a result I read each of his posts - Hi Itchy ! - 7ups q and a are worth a read
"is vitaly's case vital ?"

It could be vital for either litigant, but it glaringly exposes the blatant 'alternative' Legal avenues that exist for the wealthy, kinda kicks you in your moral wallet, and is a good personification of 'wealth privilege'. ( classism's close brother)

PP. some people justify greater scrutiny by dint of their prior recorded output (only if that output has been read by the scrutineer *of course* ) and 'open source ' exposés warrant greater scrutiny if originating from social media (facebook, 4chan, twitter,answerbank even, etc )
christ yeah OK
"you know like when X says something on AB - it is always true?
[or nart]"

Indeed P.P. ); ¬ o
If it smells like spam then it more likely is.
It is the posters first time. Something fishy?
Seeing if DaisyBlack666 answers *why* they assert "In short, it turned out that the Russian billionaire made his fortune through dishonest machinations." could be instructive.
I suspect “Daisy” god bless her has done her bit and we don’t hear from her again.
It is strange how people pop out of the woodwork at odd times :-)
Obviously this case is of huge importance to the protagonists but probably not to anyone else.

Peter you are very kind, but re the MH17 mass murder, I was only reporting what was available from news reports, being “interested”
The SBU did all the hard work
“ Legal avenues that exist for the wealthy,”

Only the wealthy are going to be pursuing this sort of thing anyway. Tweedledee says : “you stole my fortune”
Tweedledum says “no I didn’t”
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