Joe Biden - Trumps Best Asset?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53745148
Have the crats given up hope for the next election? I suspect the next Democrat President is currently largely unknown to us at the moment. Still alll good for me, I have another apple coming from Jim!

[Mozz71]

//LibFacs//

I was wondering what the opposite of LibFac was. I did concider ConCun, but that's, quite frankly, uncalled for.

ConNaz maybe? Or neoConNaz.

[Mozz71]

//I'm just surprised the Democrats couldn't have found a better challenger than Biden//

I have to admit, it did seem to be a case of repeating the mistakes of Hillary.

[anneasquith]

“ come on in, come on in “ anybody, please. :-)

[jim360]

Whoops, walked into that one a bit, TTT! All the quotes in my post at 10:40 are from Trump, who has spent most of the last few months screaming to anybody who will listen that this is going to be a rigged election against him.

[ToraToraTora]

yeah I just wondered who was supposed to be rigging the election.

[jim360]

Mozz @12:55, I'd have said that Tammy Duckworth filled that bill even better, her being a war veteran, double amputee and all. So much material for Trump to have to resist using. Harris feels more of a safe option to be honest, appealing hopefully to the centre ground of US politics.

[ToraToraTora]

you never done a podcast or zoom meeting anne? or indeed any meeting where the attendees need to be given a chance to assemble in whatever media it is? All he's doing is is waiting for those who want to listen. I assume you disagree with him though as clearly you are trying to detract from the message by nit picking.

[ToraToraTora]

Harris is the Democrats version of Sarah Palin!

[jim360]

Well, to be fair, given all the gerrymandering in the US the system is pretty rigged in multiple ways anyway. But in this particular case Trump is going on about postal voting, which is likely to be a factor in an election affected by Covid-19, while strangely being supportive of absentee ballots, which are in practice the exact same thing.

Recently, Trump has appointed a new postmaster general, Louis DeJoy, who has overseen a major restructuring of the postal service that is likely to have the effect of increasing delivery times, which in turn could affect postal voting if they have to arrive at the counting office by election day. Whether this is a coincidence or deliberate I don't know, but it's difficult not to see a link between a President railing against postal voting, and the same president appointing somebody taking action that will affect postal voting.

[Peter Pedant]

not wishing to insult TTT
too many times today ( hi TTT sweet one, how is precious today? give us a mwah mwah !)

those who contributed to Trump but are NOT doing so this time said: "we contributors are used to firing CEOs and this CEO (*) wd have gone years ago"

(*) the CEO referred to is of course The Donald
the ed herself no less has asked me to write more clearly

[youngmafbog]

Jeez, scraping the barrel a bit there jim. Is that really the best you have got?

[Peter Pedant]

//ConNaz maybe? Or neoConNaz.//

My mozza-English dictionary - on sale at very decent prices at all good outlets - prime delivery available - says

conAZ is conservative - Nazi
neo-Con-Naz - neo conservative -Nazi
cd be by metathesis Con- Neonazi

Naz does NOT refer to Nazweiler concentration camp where all those resistance agents were liquidated including
Noor-un-Nissa Inayat Khan, GC - who came up a few weeks ago ( ? image on a stamp)

[Peter Pedant]

I feel like a little angel of light and humour ( and frou frou ) walking froo-a playground full of unwashed urchins scrapping .... biting scratching and doing the usual

[Peter Pedant]

// I have to admit, it did seem to be a case of repeating the mistakes of Hillary.// mozza speak

her first mistake was getting 3 m people MORE to vote for her than the Donald did ? christ some mistake

[jim360]

Far from it, but I can't be bothered wasting much time outlining "all I've got" to someone who can't see even the potential of a link between attacking the legitimacy of postal voting and appointing somebody who is effectively making it harder to vote by post.

Can Trump lose the election legitimately? (Not *will* he, which we will only find out later this year, but *can* he?) Yes. So why is he pretending that he cannot? He even attacked 2016, claiming that the margin in the popular vote that time was fraudulent to the tune of "millions" of illegal votes, with exactly no evidence.

It should be a cause for concern when the incumbent of an office is attempting to destroy any legitimacy of his defeat. I can accept that Trump, who is particularly bad at losing, is posturing, but such loose talk has consequences. Do you think his supporters will accept the legitimacy of the result, should he lose, given all he has said about "the most RIGGED election in our nations [sic] history", and how his opponents will "cheat"?

[ToraToraTora]

Mozz; "I was wondering what the opposite of LibFac was. I did concider ConCun, but that's, quite frankly, uncalled for. " - surely opposit would have to be ConLibs surely, if liberals are the new Fascists then conservatives must be the new libertarians.

[Mozz71]

//surely opposit would have to be ConLibs surely, if liberals are the new Fascists then conservatives must be the new libertarians.//

We are what we despise.

[webbo3]

Biden is to Trump what Corbyn was to the conservatives.

[Mozz71]

//Biden is to Trump what Corbyn was to the conservatives.//

Nah, Biden is more Michael Foot. Bernie Sanders is Corbyn.

[jourdain2]

Hmm... Well, I don't think Biden had any real choice as to who to choose as a running mate. There would have been howls of outrage if he had not chosen a black woman, wouldn't there? From what I've heard on radio etc. today there is a triumphalist note coming through from the Dems. on the lines that the election now has a racial dimension and that black people will vote for a black candidate - well, that's how it has sounded to me.

I now think that I will have a flutter on the Trump (if the odds against improve, they were almost evens last week) because of all the white backs where hackles will rise at the thought of a presidential election fought on racial lines.

I'm sure this wasn't intended, but I think it is entirely possible.