Biden Trump Debate...

[Spicerack]

Was much better tonight. Joe nearly lost track of what he was saying a few times, especially towards the end, but managed to pull it back together again.
Trump was less boorish, possibly because of the mic being switched off, but I expect it was partly from watching the 1st debate where he didn't come across too well.
Moderator seemed fair and in control. Imo.
Roll on the 3rd (Nov)

[tamborine]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-ex-partner-tony-bobulinski-calls-joe-biden-a-liar/amp/

[jim360]

Feel free to keep telling yourself that.

And, besides, I thought the Brexit philosophy was that no deal was better than a bad deal. Here too, no? What conditions would Trump set, and what conditions would we be forced to meet, in order to get that deal? The relationship with the US as it is today is preferable to being forced to abandon our current food standards, etc etc.

[Ellipsis]

We might struggle to get a trade deal? Maybe we should have thought of that before giving up on the deal we already had. But at least we can cross our fingers and hope that friendly Trump gets in and gives us a smooth ride, given that we have several dozen other deals to negotiate and the small issue of Covid to deal with at the same time.

[ichkeria]

I think by most reckoning, a Trump presidency would be a lot worse for the UK than a Biden one.
There's a lot of nonsense talked about Democrats and the Good Friday agreement etc etc etc.
An "America first" doctrine led by an egocentric president continuing to head a dysfunctional administration is the last thing Britain should be (or indeed is) hoping for - for a whole range of issues.

[TrevorThePug]

Thought we paved the way for dodgy source-unknown chlorinated “”meat”” from the US.

An opening for NHS Trumpcare plc would be next.

[ToraToraTora]

jim: "And, besides, I thought the Brexit philosophy was that no deal was better than a bad deal. Here too, no? " - indeed, I would not expect any negotiating opponent to not want to get the best they can for their side. The fact we are even talking means that both sides feel there is a benefit for them, so they must of course compromise in order that both win. I'd rather do that with the US than the EUSSR, who employ bizarre tactics that more or less ensure failure. EG they demand one subject is agreed on before even talking about the rest thus stalling the negotiations at the first hurdle, eg the divorce payment.

[naomi24]

Debates or no debates .... millions of Americans have already voted and I'd make an educated guess and say the vast majority of the rest have already made their decision.

[lady-janine]

Not FF again please. What has the world done to deserve that.

[Spicerack]

FF?

[fender62]

if trump gives us a great trade deal, i dont really care who is president
i dont live there and dont really care how it's run, same as i dont care who runs france or germany.. i only care about jobs here, and our sovereignty out of the eu money pit.

[fiveleaves]

I thought it was fairly even, no clear winner.
The American domestic issues like healthcare are quite difficult for me to understand.
Biden much better on climate change. Trump still doesn't get it. Wind turbines "kill all the birds" um.