Looks Like We Could All Be In Lockdown By Next Week

[Barsel]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-boris-johnson-expected-to-impose-second-national-lockdown-after-chilling-warnings-of-winter-death-toll/ar-BB1ayDhO?li=BBoPWjQ

[Old_Geezer]

Care homes are exactly the sort of place where extra precautions are vital. Sounds like their way of protecting the place needs serious reconsideration.

[ichkeria]

“ Am I missing something. The infection rate is higher because the testing rate is higher.”

Yes you’ve missed the obvious issue that hospitals are filling up. That is their concern. This time though a longer, flatter peak is predicted. It is can-kicking of course, but they would say it’s a case of necessary can-kicking.
If it’s strictly for a month and there is an extension of government aid then I’m not over bothered. They were advised to do this weeks ago.
The big failure in all this is the test and trace system. I’m amazed anyone thought it could work as required.

[youngmafbog]

If Johnson does this without verifiable facts and figures (outside of Sage) then I'm afraid that's the end of me and the Tories.

"Yes you’ve missed the obvious issue that hospitals are filling up"

Well use the expensive Nightingale hospitals. And most are no fuller than in any other year.

[ChillDoubt]

A lot of this is self-inflicted Covidiocy(nights out in Liverpool, parties abound in Scotland and one last thrash in Nottingham) so I’m afraid I’m completely apathetic to it now, we’ll reap the whirlwind and Devil take the hindmost, I’m past caring, as are a lot of my colleagues.

[youngmafbog]

People wont be past caring when taxes go up, thats if you have a job in the first place to pay them.

Also I suspect those in abject poverty around the world will care when they start dying in their droves now the charities are struggling and that will only get worse as money problems tighten.

[Sqad]

YMB

////Well use the expensive Nightingale hospitals. And most are no fuller than in any other year.///

No problem there then but the hospital building is the easy part,where are the doctors, nurses,vital support staff going to be found?

If I remember correctly, you have a daughter who is medically qualified, if so what is her opinion of the situation?
If I have the wrong ABer then I apologise.

You had better get your application for your alternative Political Party as total lockdown is a raceing certainty in my opinion.....and including Christmas.

[maggiebee]

Dundee goes into tier 3 from Monday. Meeting up with friend for coffee today - last time for a while methinks as from Monday we will be in different tiers. Whole thing is a bit of a nightmare.

[bobbinwales]

You wont find any other party that wants to let thousand's more die each week so maybe form your own youngmabog. You could emigrate but a doubt youll find any goverment that will agree with you. Its easy off course to winge and talk tough anonymous from behind a keyboard but not when your in charge and after account for all the deaths and clogged up nhs.

[Zacs-Master]

It’s only when people make dumbass comments such as ‘and most [hospitals] are no fuller than any other year’ that their true mental capacity is seen. Very revealing.

[mushroom25]

BorisBrief at 4pm - I guess we'll find out then if we're locked down. Everyone seems to have got the wind up, not a toilet roll in sight at Morrison's.....

[ChillDoubt]

Like I said, we’ll get what we deserve:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-54769055

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54768430

Covidiocy by the population, Covidiocy by the clergy.

[gness]

One of the saddest things I've read, Chill was your post on Saturday. That stupidity and selfish behaviour has brought you and your colleagues to feel like that is heartbreaking...take care...x

[ChillDoubt]

Thank you for the very kind sentiments, gness.

Sadly, what I wrote is true, the apathy amongst colleagues is all-pervading.

[Togo]

My Daughter is "medically qualified" to consultant level. Her personal view is that this lockdown has come to late and should have been effected much much sooner. She makes the point that a lockdown now is much more damaging to all our mental states, and that is particularly hard on people who live alone, than one when it was possible to get out in the sunshine and light for an hour or so. This is not her medical judgement but her social one. She is not a snowflake or shrinking violet, she is pragmatic and realistic. For myself ... I can't help but notice that when the Welsh and Scottish parliaments were introducing stern measures that they were roundly applauded by the very people who are now calling for Boris to do one. People ey? Hope the job turns out to be of the dependable sort, like yourself AV.

[Togo]

Ohh ... and when I spoke to her last she was quietly hopeful that a vaccine may well be available before the year is out. It always was going to be a long game but as we quibble clever folk are at work. This interested me. The genetic link that determines how severe the infection is.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/tiny-variants-in-genes-may-dictate-severity-of-coronavirus/ar-BB1aABIV?li=BBoPWjQ