Am I Right To Be Feeling This Way?
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Does anyone seriously think this is anything beyond Boriis's personal pipe dream - along with cycle lanes here there and everywhere - or do they seriously think this is a feasible policy?
My view is that, in the future, a non-petrol / diesel engine will come, possibly powered by a battery the size that fits in a TV remote, and rechargeable in the vehicle, lasting about fifty years, but that is a long way off.
In the mean time, the initial forays into the notion - such as we have now, are clearly hamstrung by the expense of the vehicle in the first place, combined with lack of valid distance range, and a complete absence of viable charging facilities, and I don't see any of that altering in nine years.
Any views?
My view is that, in the future, a non-petrol / diesel engine will come, possibly powered by a battery the size that fits in a TV remote, and rechargeable in the vehicle, lasting about fifty years, but that is a long way off.
In the mean time, the initial forays into the notion - such as we have now, are clearly hamstrung by the expense of the vehicle in the first place, combined with lack of valid distance range, and a complete absence of viable charging facilities, and I don't see any of that altering in nine years.
Any views?
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Raised this a couple fo days ago: https:/
Seems to me like Johnson is being led by his little head which is controlled by the leftie liberal Princess Nut Nut.
Seems to me like Johnson is being led by his little head which is controlled by the leftie liberal Princess Nut Nut.
what (I wonder) is being proposed to help or persuade the road haulage industry to give up their diesel trucks? at this time a credible truck battery is so heavy, it uses up enough of the available payload to render an electric truck uneconomic (even assuming it could hold a charge long enough to do a meaningful journey). Electrify the motorways, maybe? https:/
looks promising, but the government ruled more railway electrification offside due to the cost, so going for this seems a bit odd. unless, that is, the objective is to end railfreight (which it would).
looks promising, but the government ruled more railway electrification offside due to the cost, so going for this seems a bit odd. unless, that is, the objective is to end railfreight (which it would).
I take you back to the period 1870 to 1930, yes 30 years, and petrol/diesel garages weren't exactly widely available back then.... the two wild cards for the proliferation/expansion of the network was finding out how to handle petrol (mogas) cuts coming out of lighter crudes and how to safely and effectively blend them (this in California/Texas and Pennsylvania) and the impact that Henry Ford had on making the car affordable - and yes it took 60+ years as it was in 1876, Nicolaus Otto, working with Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach, patented the compressed charge, four-stroke cycle engine.
Electric cars are at a similar stage as what petrol/diesel faced and Hydrogen is further behind - yes, there are concept cars out there using H2 but the big issue for them is the storage of H2 onboard - in short, they need to find new materials that are lighter than lead.... H2 atoms are so small that they even leak out of sealed glass containers..think of a wine glass with a lid on it, filled with hydrogen and, bingo, next morning, you wouldn't have any. The solution may be in the area of nano-silica technology...but that step-chain or 'wild card' is needed to make H2 the car of choice.
Electric cars are at a similar stage as what petrol/diesel faced and Hydrogen is further behind - yes, there are concept cars out there using H2 but the big issue for them is the storage of H2 onboard - in short, they need to find new materials that are lighter than lead.... H2 atoms are so small that they even leak out of sealed glass containers..think of a wine glass with a lid on it, filled with hydrogen and, bingo, next morning, you wouldn't have any. The solution may be in the area of nano-silica technology...but that step-chain or 'wild card' is needed to make H2 the car of choice.
One has to remember that nearly three-quarters of the UK's electricity still comes from fossil fuels, (Primary oil (crude oil and Natural Gas Liquids) accounted for 44% of total production, natural gas 29%, primary electricity (consisting of nuclear, wind, solar and natural flow hydro) 16%, bioenergy and waste 11%, while coal accounted for the remaining 1% as of July this year....UK.gov assets publishing service.
For electricity to be semi-efficient as a fuel, it needs to be carbon neutral as in nuclear or renewable - and even then offset in terms of full carbon life-cycle is needed as CO2 is produced in making the steel and all the other materials needed to build the infrastructure.
For electricity to be semi-efficient as a fuel, it needs to be carbon neutral as in nuclear or renewable - and even then offset in terms of full carbon life-cycle is needed as CO2 is produced in making the steel and all the other materials needed to build the infrastructure.
// Diesel far out performs it. //
yes. at the turn of the century, before diesel became the environmental pariah it is now (before particulates hit the headlines), modern diesel engines were so fuel efficient and carbon-friendly (overall) there were moves by Railtrack to persuade Virgin to re-equip their ageing BR fleet with diesel pendolinos rather than electric (which would have obviated the need to replace the disintegrating electric infrastructure). fortunately that didn't happen.
yes. at the turn of the century, before diesel became the environmental pariah it is now (before particulates hit the headlines), modern diesel engines were so fuel efficient and carbon-friendly (overall) there were moves by Railtrack to persuade Virgin to re-equip their ageing BR fleet with diesel pendolinos rather than electric (which would have obviated the need to replace the disintegrating electric infrastructure). fortunately that didn't happen.
Sometimes I wonder.
Mushroom, do you know what levels of particulates diesels are now working to? These are the maximum levels https:/
In short, many new vehicles are breathing out cleaner air than they take in - oh and by the way, it's possible to remove SOx's completely (sulphur oxides) by making diesel from N-Gas as Shell does in Malaysia.
Mushroom, do you know what levels of particulates diesels are now working to? These are the maximum levels https:/
In short, many new vehicles are breathing out cleaner air than they take in - oh and by the way, it's possible to remove SOx's completely (sulphur oxides) by making diesel from N-Gas as Shell does in Malaysia.
What about the mining of the metals that are used to manufacture the batteries? Also there will be a lot of used old batteries to be disposed of when they reach the end of their life. That in itself will be a environmental nightmare which of course will then in time lead to a campaign to ban electric cars. I think what environmentalists want eventually is nobody to have access to personal motorised transport of any description and everyone have to use public transport.
dave - // I think what environmentalists want eventually is nobody to have access to personal motorised transport of any description and everyone have to use public transport. //
My firm belief is that the majority of public transport crusaders live in cities like Lndon, which has excellent public transport, and can be offered as an attractive alternative to private cars.
If you live in Stoke, like I do, where buses are cold, badly timed, infrequent, and have had their routes and timetables systematically destroyed over the last ten years, then nothing on earth would induce me to give up my car and use them.
My firm belief is that the majority of public transport crusaders live in cities like Lndon, which has excellent public transport, and can be offered as an attractive alternative to private cars.
If you live in Stoke, like I do, where buses are cold, badly timed, infrequent, and have had their routes and timetables systematically destroyed over the last ten years, then nothing on earth would induce me to give up my car and use them.
What a controlled narrative - 'the short view'.
Overton window time so as not to scare with a draught of reality.
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Overton window time so as not to scare with a draught of reality.
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