Matt Halfcock

[Canary42]

Matt Hancock says people must take time off from work when they're sick.

He's so out of touch he doesn't realise that many Employers exercise disciplinary procedures when employees take time off sick, and also many of them don't provide sick pay. But of course you wouldn't expect a Tory Toff to understand that.

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/matt-hancock-covid-british-way-flu-130315285.html

[diddlydo]

I think it would be fairer to say that not all Tories are toffs but that all toffs are Tories.

[emmie]

define toff.

[naomi24]

diddly, what's your definition of a toff?

[naomi24]

Snap, emmie. Cross posted.

[dannyk13]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toff

[emmie]

like me describing all Labour party members as flat capped northerners, which they ain't.

[naomi24]

'Dandy/swell' danny? Another throwback to the dark ages. I wonder what diddly's definition is?

[emmie]

what does that make Sir Keir Starmer,

[dannyk13]

Naomi, Chambers defines toff as 'a person of the upper classes'

[emmie]

does that then apply to ALL Tories....

[dannyk13]

Emmie //does that then apply to ALL Tories....//
Of course it doesn't.There are many working class tories,

[emmie]

i have made my point Danny, i know that all Tories aren't toffs, but others seem to think they are

[naomi24]

That’s what I assumed, danny, but then it begs the question just how many ‘toffs’ are there … and are all Employers ‘toffs’?

[emmie]

of course they aren't. Toff is out dated and totally unnecessary in the grand scheme of things,

[dannyk13]

Naomi, depends on how one defines 'upper classes'. I would imagine that there are many variations of it.

[emmie]

this class idea has and is a blight on this country, did people elect the Tories because they were all Toffs...i don't think so

[naomi24]

Indeed, danny. Back to diddly, then.... or the OP, if he decides to return to his thread.

[diddlydo]

Danny has already told you the Chambers definition of "toff". I stand by my first post which was that not all Tories are toffs but all toffs are Tories. Would anyone care to give me an example of a toff who doesn't vote Tory?

[dannyk13]

Didd ly, assuming that a barrister would be a member of the upper classes, then Sir Keir Starmer would fit into the definition.

[naomi24]

//Would anyone care to give me an example of a toff who doesn't vote Tory? //

Here you are, diddly. From your favourite newspaper too.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/20/labours-new-members-mostly-wealthy-city-dwellers-leaked-report