Are We Administering The Vaccine The Wrong Way Round?

[naomi24]

Top of the list are the most vulnerable, mostly the elderly who are, in the main, isolating, but if as is reported the young are responsible for spreading the virus shouldn’t we be vaccinating them first, thereby safeguarding everyone else as well as allowing workers to get back to normal and hence, limiting the damage to the economy?

[ichkeria]

Sorry, somehow I missed jim's post. Explained better by him.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "They do NOT stop the transmission" - they stop the virus infecting the person, surely that stops the transmission. Some people seem to think the vaccine simply treats the symptoms, WRONG!

[AuntPollyGrey]

// So you vaccinate first those most at risk from catching it.//

Which are those people who have to work 'out there' -not 90 year olds in basic lockdown.

[Untitled]

All we know is that the vaccine dramatically reduces the harm done by the virus it does not cause the virus to magically bounce off people like bullets being fired at the terminator. It could very well reside in the vaccinated persons body and do them no harm while still spreading, effectively converting possibly dangerous cases into asymptomatic cases. People who are already very likely to be asymptomatic in any case are thus obviously not a priority.

[Sqad]

TTT

/////Some people seem to think the vaccine simply treats the symptoms, WRONG!////

RIGHT!..... it does only treat the symptoms, as far as we know.

[Untitled]

How do you know that stops infection ToraToraTora. You should tell the government that seems like very important scientific knowledge assuming you have evidence of course.

[Sqad]

APG

//////not 90 year olds in basic lockdown./////

LOL.....you have a way with words -;)

[jim360]

TTT, please be careful that you aren't jumping the gun. Here's the prof on the vaccination:

// The reality is that those that have had the vaccine cannot jump about and boast about their immunity. We simply don't know whether they can still infect others... transmission remains a very real concern despite the commencement of mass vaccination today. I have met people who are of the opinion that they can discard their masks, disregard social distancing and return to a normal lifestyle once they have had the jab and any lockdown in place is lifted. This is not the case and I'm not even prepared to give an opinion on when that will change right now. //

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "It could very well reside in the vaccinated persons body and do them no harm while still spreading" - No it is targeted and killed by the immune system.

[Untitled]

Where is your proof of that? Read jims post you are speaking without facts.

[CrapAtCryptics]

Young people have the option of complying with the rules rather than partying and boozing with their mates with relatively little risk to themselves. Older people, apart from being mostly more responsible, have no option to isolate rather than run the risk of a fatal dose of the infection.

[Togo]

This may help if you are wondering when you will get your vaccine. It predicts, for instance that I am behind between 6 and 9 million others and at a rate of 1 million vaccines a week my turn comes between 28/01/2021 and 24/02 2021. It also predicts a 70.6% take up of the vaccine and the time to treat all of us 1.05 years.
P.S Enter you age first or it will not calculate for you.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk#priority-list

[emmie]

24/02/2021 and 13/03/2021

[naomi24]

//Young people have the option of complying with the rules rather than partying and boozing with their mates with relatively little risk to themselves.//

It would be better for the country if they had the option of going back to work.

[emmie]

personally i think it will take longer than a year now, and that the take up may not be as many as 70 percent

[emmie]

what a totally depressing thought, another year like this one, cut off from family and friends,

[pixie374]

between 21/12/2020 and 17/01/2021.

I think it's right the most vulnerable are vaccinated first. What level do we need before people can go back to work?

[bobbinwales]

//You can't pass it on if you don't catch it, bobbin.?

Wish that was true buy your not correct unfortunately naomi. Vaccination will of course stop most people becoming seriously ill with covid BUT its not forming a barrier round you- you can still get the virus in your body like in your nose & throat & on your body like your hand's and lip's.

From the gov.uk site there page says

"We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk. So, it is still important to follow the guidance in your local area to protect those around you.
To protect yourself and your family, friends and colleagues you still need to:
-practice social distancing
-wear a face mask
-wash your hands carefully and frequently
-follow the current guidance

So they dont yet know . Am personally confidant it will reduce the risk of infecting others but ca'nt eliminate it by any means

[Apc2604]

There are no rights or wrongs or cons and pros. There are arguments for and against the right way to proceed. We just have to calm down on all this, follow the rules as best we can and keep our fingers crossed. Life is stressful enough at the moment without continuously making ourselves more stressed - me included! I am now looking forward to what I hope will be a Christmas break by the media for just a few days.

[bobbinwales]

"How COVID-19 is spread
COVID-19 is spread through droplets breathed out from the nose or mouth, particularly when speaking or coughing. It can also be picked up by touching your eyes, nose and mouth after contact with contaminated objects and surfaces."

Yes naomi, theres maybe a case for vaccinating key workers such as NHS staff, teachers care home staff and off course shop workers so they can avoid been off sick, before allready terminly ill older patients.
But appart from that am not sure what you mean by letting young peopel get back to work. Most shops and offices and factories, tradesman, construction sites, schools are open allready. Yes hospitality such as bars, resraunts, theatres are badly hit and employ young peopel mainly but there not able to reopen if its still spread among customers.
Hopefully by summer most will be vaccinnated and scientists will know more about spread and we can open up hospitality, concerts etc