Nightingale Hospital

[smurfchops]

There are apparently very few places left in NHS hospitals due to Covid and the new strain. So why is the Nightingale Hospital empty?? Why don’t the NHS use it?

[Prudie]

Is that to me?
"nurses I know in my local hospital" are 'they say"

[woofgang]

Gp's aren't paid a salary, they are contractors. The are paid a capitation fee per person on their books plus certain additional payments for things like flu vaccinations. Out of this they have to supply their surgery facilities, insurance and everything else it costs to run a small business. I am not an unconditional fan of gP's. I have worked with some idiots and some stinkers but I don't see how they can "not be paid" if they aren't paid a salary in the first place.

[Deskdiary]

I dropped an Xmas card round to a cousin earlier today - she wasn’t in - but as I was walking away she came hobbling around on her crutches having fairly recently paid privately to have her knees done. She’s in her mid 40s, but such was her agony she paid to have them done privately following cancellation after cancellation by the NHS (I won’t bore you why she needed her knees done so you young in life, but suffice to say she was an athlete who represented her country) and yet god knows how many millions have been spent on Nightingale hospitals, with no staff to staff them, to avoid “overwhelming” the NHS even though the NHS has not even come close to being overwhelmed.

It’s a bloody disgrace that people in need of treatment are being ignored because of the perceived threat of Covid.

[Prudie]

I'm not au fait with how GPs are paid but if I google what is a GP's salary it does not say they are not paid one it says, for example, "A doctor in specialist training starts on a basic salary of £37,935 and progresses to £48,075. Salaried general practitioners (GPs) earn £58,808 to £88,744 depending on the length of service and experience. GP partners are self-employed and receive a share of profits of the business." however that's not my point and doesn't warrant being jumped on. I was fully open that every side has a story and was simply relating what the nurses say their hospital doctors are saying about local GPs. They must be wrong of course as apparently GPs aren't paid...

[237SJ]

Teacake - no I didn't say that. Read what I said again (properly this time)

[New Judge]

Here’s a rundown of my GP Practice staff:

1 Practice Manager
1 Assistant Practice Manager
7 Receptionists
1 Secretary & Care Co-ordinator
1 Secretary
1 Prescription Clerk
1 Medical Record Administrator
1 Advanced Clinical Practitioner
1 Practice Pharmacist (the practice does not have a pharmacy)
4 Practice Nurses
2 Healthcare Assistants

Oh! I almost forgot:
2 Partners
4 Salaried GPs

The (quite substantial) building has been “dark” almost continuously since March. I pass it most days. Prior to Covid the staff car park (there is no such facility for patients) was almost full every day. Now, occasionally, I may see one car in the car park. The only time I have seen the building substantially occupied is on the two days they arranged to administer ‘flu jabs. That was an utter shambles as I have related here previously.

It is virtually impossible to see a GP. The surgery website says this:

“We are asking all patients that wish to make an appointment with their GP to complete an online consultation in the first instance. This will then be triaged by a clinician within 24 hours and the most appropriate solution for your request will be offered.”

I fortunately haven’t had the need but three people who I know have and the “most appropriate solution" for each of them was for the GP to refer them to hospital for what was a fairly minor condition. The practice would not allow them to visit personally. Whatever it is the above 27 people have been doing for the past nine months they have not been doing it from the surgery building.

Conventional Primary healthcare simply isn’t available where I live and I doubt I’m alone. It’s one more reason why the NHS is not fit for purpose.

[teacake44]

237SJ 22.17. I did read it again ( the problem with using the nightingales) I don't see a problem with the millions of people living near and around such centers. No different than going to a test site.

[teacake44]

Bobbinwales. 21.21, What treatments are people getting in the doctors surgerys now, that they should be getting in a hospital? Examples please and a link.