Come To U K For A Better Life.......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-55545669
....why not do a bit of jihad once here? Damn savage should never see the light of day again but some of the "mitigation" is bizarre....
"As part of his sentencing, a hearing will decide if he was motivated by a religious or ideological cause." - How does that make any difference?

[Bobbisox1]

I'd just inject this scum, he's an oxygen thief not fit for purpose!

[emmie]

it doesn't make a damn difference, lets hope he gets the maximum sentence - life no parole.

[Jackdaw33]

It makes no difference whatsoever. In the good old days he would have gone to prison for six weeks before having a brief appointment with Albert Pierrepoint at 8 a.m. the next morning.

[emmie]

not now jack, and not for a long time.

[pixie374]

It doesn't... but you must have seen a few on AB who believe religion can "brainwash" someone. You can have it both ways...

[pixie374]

Can't...!

[emmie]

no but suggest that those who have a religious leaning on ab aren't likely to go and kill or seems pretty unlikely. - this nutter should be locked up for good.

[Buenchico]

>>> How does that make any difference?

Because, under the provisions of Section 66 of the Sentencing Act 2020, 'religious hostility' is an aggravating factor in an offence, which can push sentencing upwards:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/17/section/66/enacted

Therefore, when a defendant has pleaded guilty to an offence, or been found guilty of it by a jury, but denies the prosecution's assertion that religious hostility was involved in it, it's necessary for a Newton hearing to be held before sentencing can take place:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_hearing

[pixie374]

No, no, I'm not suggesting that, emmie.... just that I have seen "religion" blamed for the actions of an individual... which i disagree with. But those who believe that's true, should also be prepared that it can be used as mitigation.
You blame the individual (me) or the religion...

[emmie]

i blame the indvidual in this case for murder, i hope he gets the maximum sentence -

[Peter Pedant]

yeah I was gonna say
it pushes his sentence up innit?

[predicted TTT ext - foo dat! fingey dingy hangey pierrepoint innit yeah etc etc...foo!]

sozza readers still not achieved the fathomless uselessness of a standard TTT post - - yet !
nay - - fatuity
nay - - gormlessness

[ummmm]

What the hell does 'foo' actually mean.

Do you set out to irritate people, PP?

[Peter Pedant]

erm the sentence is Life imprisonment
BUT - as a result of TTT's fave act - the Human Rights Act that is! the Home secretary doesnt say how long
the judge has to say how long at the beginning of the sentence

which is kinda - well phooey

[coz see the whole point of letting them out is to assess whether they will do it again which you have to do just before release]

[emmie]

life no parole would seem right for this murdering scum -

[pixie374]

So do I, emmie.... but watch AB and many blame the whole religion instead.

[emmie]

maybe, but whatever the reason he should go down and stay there -

[Sunk]

// While in HMP Bullingdon, Saadallah had associated with radical preacher Omar Brooks who is associated with banned terror group Al-Muhajiroun, the court heard. He was released from the prison in June //

I suspect that was a mistake that shouldn’t have happened and was preventable.

[andy-hughes]

Sunk - hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[zebo]

Murder is murder in any civilised religion, however you try to dress it up, surely they could also try the well-trod mental health school of excuses.

[andy-hughes]

Zeno, suggesting that mental health issues are a get-out is a lazy response to a difficult and complex illness and it's rare that any sane criminal can fake such illness to escape justice.