Breaking Lockdown Rules

[Hymie]

Apparently this person is devastated that they broke covid lockdown rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56058923

Why do we have more news reports of persons who are devastated (to find out) that they had robbed a local bank?

[New Judge]

//...whether it's a burst pipe or a heart attack, they would need the relevant help as soon as possible.//

It may not have been anything like that, vulcan. Her parents may simply have needed her to "be there." We don't know; we shouldn't judge. And there will more examples of this as the current situation continues. People cannot live their lives like this indefinitely and it is foolish in the extreme for the government to believe that they can or will. They need to develop a strategy that accommodates the fact that people will not keep out of other people's houses.

[Zacs-Master]

Isn’t reinforcing the validity of a lockdown the strategy?

[eve1974]

Ladybirder //Amanda Holden raises a lot of money for charity Eve,//

Point noted. Yes you are right. She has gd points.

I do tho still find her extremely irritating. I realise that’s unfair as I don’t know her but .... she is one of those folk who I change channel if I see her.

[ladybirder]

Me too Eve;-))

[vulcan42]

deskdiary \\I obviously care for those close to me (I guess you don't have anybody close to you -//
If you care for people close to you why would you keep them waiting in an emergency for four or five hours when help is needed immediately?

[chelle7272]

Perhaps local services wet also called, how do we know? I would still want to be there for my family if they needed me, as well as any more immediate assistance they may need.

[New Judge]

//Isn’t reinforcing the validity of a lockdown the strategy?//

Yes it is. But since it's quite obvious that it's being widely ignored the government needs to accept that because it cannot be effectively enforced. There is no point in continually "reinforcing" a policy that is being ignored.

[Sqad]

/////There is no point in continually "reinforcing" a policy that is being ignored.////
Ignored by some, jeopardising a system that is clearly working.

[New Judge]

Ignored by quite a lot, sqad, if my observations are typical.

It may be working - who knows? But it cannot continue and the more that people see others like Ms Holden travelling around the country the more they will choose to do likewise.

[lankeela]

"Amanda is aware of the travel rules and is devastated she had to break them on this one occasion." So admitting she did break the rules knowing full well what they were.

[Sqad]

/////Ignored by quite a lot, sqad, ///
I totally agree, which has been the problem of "spacing " throughout this pandemic.


/////It may be working - who knows?////

I do, for one.
Infection rates are falling,"r" factor below one, hospital admissions falling and deaths due to Covid also falling.

The Government has made multiple mistakes in the past, but on this occasion they haven't..........providing that lockdown isn't lifted too soon.

[Sunk]

// a system that is clearly working. //

Not where I live.
24th October we were put in Tier 3 and everything shut. Our deaths that week were 98.
15 weeks of Tier 3 and lockdown later, and this weeks deaths were 417.

It quite patently is not working.

[Sqad]

Sunk......the Tier system was a failure, this thread is all about the current lockdown.

[Old_Geezer]

One person's opinion of what is essential can differ from another's. Hardly comparable to robbery.

[Sunk]

Sqad

The restrictions of tier 3 and the current restrictions are almost identical. 15 weeks and our deaths are 4 times higher. That cannot be described as ‘working’.

[New Judge]

//"Amanda is aware of the travel rules and is devastated she had to break them on this one occasion." So admitting she did break the rules knowing full well what they were.//

But did she break them? If she had a reasonable excuse to leave home and to remain away from home she did not. I note (as far as I can tell) no action has been taken against her.

[Sqad]

Sunk.

I don't know where you live and what dates you are comparing, but certainly the death rates, although coming down are higher, much higher than before Christmas and certainly much higher than the previous peak because, the "peak" was higher after Christmas, hence the lockdown.
Since the lockdown all parameters are falling, hence it is working.

[Sunk]

Funny use of the word ‘devastated’.

I wonder what mental and physical symptoms have occurred because of this shocking and shattering event?

[jim360]

What region is this? I'd be particularly interested in the trends between your two data points.

Nationally, it is clear that lockdown has had an impact. It's also rather misleading to say that Tier 3 and the current Lockdown are identical. They are not (as evidenced, among other things, by the fact that the current lockdown measures are "tier 4").

[Barsel]

I'm surprised that no-one has picked up on the fact that it's Amanda's birthday tomorrow! Just saying.