Racist Cowards

[royfromaus]

Apparently.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/george-floyd-memorial-racist-graffiti-19919685


Why is Manchester paying homage to an American misogynistic cowardly criminal?

[royfromaus]

fender62
the guy who stuck a gun to a pregnant womans belly...say no more.
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I haven't any evidence of that being true, Fender.

[Prudie]

I wouldn't write anything in the dead of night untitled, I'd just daub it in a way that made it unrecognisable. I don't believe there is anyone on this thread that approves of the way he was killed but that doesn't mean he should be lauded as some kind of hero. Had you suffered at some of his thuggish behaviour when he was alive you may view him in a different light, as might some others who are always so keen to show their liberal all-forgiving side.

[Bazile]

//..I don't believe there is anyone on this thread that approves of the way he was killed...//

That's not the impression I get

And from previous threads as well

[Mamyalynne]

I don't laud George Floyd but nor would I daub or deface his image.

[fender62]

https://www.thecourierdaily.com/george-floyd-criminal-past-record-arrest/20177/

[royfromaus]

Bazile
//..I don't believe there is anyone on this thread that approves of the way he was killed...//

That's not the impression I get

And from previous threads as well
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What particular comments make you think that, Bazile?

[burlyshirley]

I couldn't care less how he was killed. There, I've said it. I feel sorry for the cop and the hell he must be going through now. I saw the video and he was resisting arrest, the officers kept trying to get him into the car and he wouldn't comply. They did what they had to do and I don't believe they meant to kill him.

[royfromaus]

Besides that ^ one

[Ellipsis]

Like it or not, George Floyd's image is not just a picture of a dead American man; it's now a global symbol.

Writing *** across the mural is a statement about what you think it symbolises, and where your sympathies lie.

And then using the fact that somebody wrote *** across it, not to have a go at that defacement, but to have a go at the symbol itself ... puts you in the same camp as the person who wrote *** across it in the first place.

[royfromaus]

Where does it say *** was written on it, Ellipsis?

[royfromaus]

You didn't just make up your own word for nefarious reasons did you, Ellipsis?

[Untitled]

“ Had you suffered at some of his thuggish behaviour when he was alive you may view him in a different light, as might some others who are always so keen to show their liberal all-forgiving side.”

I have been on the receiving end of thuggish behaviour... I do not believe any of the people who did so deserved to die unjustly at the hands of the police.. and it is his death that the mural is really about, not him as a person, despite the fact that it depicts his face. He symbolises a very real injustice in the states regarding police treatment of black americans.

It comes down to: do you care about other people or not? If you don’t or are incapable of it then fine. Many people in bruce gibley’s “Generation Sociopath” struggle with empathy, it is not necessarily their fault. You’re with the people who keep attacking the mural (as many have openly said), and it probably mystifies you that people in manchester care at all about an american cause celebre. If you do, then it is at least possible to understand why this mural exists even if you perhaps disagree with it.

[Mozz71]

Roy//Where does it say *** was written on it, Ellipsis?//

From the article - "It's understood it was daubed with an offensive word."

If it wasn't the N-word, it was something similar.

[margarettom]

I’m just glad it isn’t in the town where I live. It’s pretty grim.

[Ellipsis]

Roy, AFAIK this is the third time the mural has been attacked. The first time, somebody painted the N-word on it. The second time, it was urinated on. This time, it is described as the graffiti of a racist coward. It makes no difference to my argument what was daubed. What I'm saying is, if you use the defacement to complain about the mural, rather than the defacement, you put yourself in the same camp as the defacer. Many people may not agree with the mural, bui there's a time and a place to disagree with it if you don't want to be put in that camp.

[royfromaus]

So you have no idea what was graffitied onto the mural but you will use it anyway to shout RACIST.

Well done you, you must be very proud.

[Theland]

The people of Manchester were not consulted at having it there.
A vote would be impossible, but public opinion could be gauged from letters and calls to local radio and newspapers.
I doubt if they would consent to the mural.

[Spicerack]

Yes, roy, you can't go around defacing statues just because you don't like them. Said ha ha ha, haha hah haha. sorry couldn't help myself

[Mozz71]

Theland, Manchester does have a fairly large BAME community. You may be surprised at how that vote would go.

Besides, does that justify adorning it with (probably) racist grafitti?

[royfromaus]

60 posts in...anyone want to answer the actual Q?