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Forget your summer holidays.
A 4th surge with inevitable lockdown is a racing certainty despite the successful vaccination programme.
Don't blame the Politicians.
Forget your summer holidays.
A 4th surge with inevitable lockdown is a racing certainty despite the successful vaccination programme.
Don't blame the Politicians.
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//If you insist on shouting “madness” every time you see a few people together in the street you’d better get used to it because it’s going to happen more and more.//
Newjudge, your confusing a handful of people wanting to go for afternoon tea or to pay bridge or maybe go to the cinema with groups of many hundreds or thousands who ignore any social distancing and put not only themselfs, there famlies and friends at risk but the police too, whilst leaving a trail of empty beer cans and plastic bottles of water .
Newjudge, your confusing a handful of people wanting to go for afternoon tea or to pay bridge or maybe go to the cinema with groups of many hundreds or thousands who ignore any social distancing and put not only themselfs, there famlies and friends at risk but the police too, whilst leaving a trail of empty beer cans and plastic bottles of water .
//Newjudge, your confusing a handful of people wanting to go for afternoon tea or to pay bridge or maybe go to the cinema with groups of many hundreds or thousands who ignore any social distancing and put not only themselfs, there famlies and friends at risk but the police too, whilst leaving a trail of empty beer cans and plastic bottles of water .//
I'm making no such confusion.
There seems to be a gathering philosophy in this country that it must remain locked down until...until when? I don't know. Every time whatever it is we are locked down for is achieved a new target is devised to retain the restrictions.
People do gather in numbers - large and small - for all sorts of reasons. They've been prevented from doing so (legally) for some time. What I'm suggesting is that the events mentioned in this thread will become increasingly commonplace. The people involved in most of those events have gathered together simply because they've been told they cannot. At some point the government is going to have to accept that the virus is endemic and must be lived with. Being "lived with" does not involve preventing people doing what they normally do. When the restrictions are eventually eased (if they ever are) those gathering together simply because they've been told they cannot will no longer do so.
Perhaps you could help me a little by explaining what the current target is before restrictions can be eased. Infections are very low (but will always be around); deaths are very low (but will always occur); the vaccination programme has achieved a decent level of protection for most of the very vulnerable (and is continuing to build); hospital admissions are at the lowest since the end of September. Just what danger are these gatherings presenting and when will such events no longer be deemed a danger?
I'm making no such confusion.
There seems to be a gathering philosophy in this country that it must remain locked down until...until when? I don't know. Every time whatever it is we are locked down for is achieved a new target is devised to retain the restrictions.
People do gather in numbers - large and small - for all sorts of reasons. They've been prevented from doing so (legally) for some time. What I'm suggesting is that the events mentioned in this thread will become increasingly commonplace. The people involved in most of those events have gathered together simply because they've been told they cannot. At some point the government is going to have to accept that the virus is endemic and must be lived with. Being "lived with" does not involve preventing people doing what they normally do. When the restrictions are eventually eased (if they ever are) those gathering together simply because they've been told they cannot will no longer do so.
Perhaps you could help me a little by explaining what the current target is before restrictions can be eased. Infections are very low (but will always be around); deaths are very low (but will always occur); the vaccination programme has achieved a decent level of protection for most of the very vulnerable (and is continuing to build); hospital admissions are at the lowest since the end of September. Just what danger are these gatherings presenting and when will such events no longer be deemed a danger?
yes Jno is correct in the observation
a million went darn to Durdle Dor (*) July last year
and no spike of covid was reported
in the same month there was a night rave in Daisy Nook and no spike
BUT
Cheltenham races - it ws said not v loudly that the spanish variant came in froo immigrants to see the racing
and this leads us to conlcude
open air and dry, there is very little contagion - whether or not the computers show there should be
and boys and gurls
the govt know this and are planning to open the pubs when it gets warmer for - - - open air drinking
and to be honest I cant wait
(*) yeah someone really did say Jul 20 "Durdle dor where dat den?" in true AB style. Ans: Darzet aaargh - it is where Sgt troy swims out to his doom in the beginning of Far From the Madding Crowd 1967 ( Terence Stamp)
a million went darn to Durdle Dor (*) July last year
and no spike of covid was reported
in the same month there was a night rave in Daisy Nook and no spike
BUT
Cheltenham races - it ws said not v loudly that the spanish variant came in froo immigrants to see the racing
and this leads us to conlcude
open air and dry, there is very little contagion - whether or not the computers show there should be
and boys and gurls
the govt know this and are planning to open the pubs when it gets warmer for - - - open air drinking
and to be honest I cant wait
(*) yeah someone really did say Jul 20 "Durdle dor where dat den?" in true AB style. Ans: Darzet aaargh - it is where Sgt troy swims out to his doom in the beginning of Far From the Madding Crowd 1967 ( Terence Stamp)
/////Sqad, I thought the same last summer after everyone packed onto beaches in the sun. Strangely, though, there were no cases at all/////
Really jno and where was that, certainly not in the UK where we were preparing to deal with a second "surge ".
NJ, well written, eloquent, a little verbose for me but zi have little to disagree with except to say that should the public act in the way that you have prophesied, then, to quote, there is not a cat in hell's chance that 2021 will not follow the same pattern as 2010.
To me,it is that simple.
Really jno and where was that, certainly not in the UK where we were preparing to deal with a second "surge ".
NJ, well written, eloquent, a little verbose for me but zi have little to disagree with except to say that should the public act in the way that you have prophesied, then, to quote, there is not a cat in hell's chance that 2021 will not follow the same pattern as 2010.
To me,it is that simple.
//...there is not a cat in hell's chance that 2021 will not follow the same pattern as 2010.
To me,it is that simple.//
So the vaccination programme will have been a waste then. By the early summer all of the most vulnerable will have had two shots and most of the other adults at least one. By the late summer all adults should have had two jabs. If the infections/deaths follow the same pattern in the next 12 months as they have in the previous year we will all have wasted our time rolling up our sleeves. And if that is the case the government will have to find a way of living with that situation other than by locking the country up.
To me,it is that simple.//
So the vaccination programme will have been a waste then. By the early summer all of the most vulnerable will have had two shots and most of the other adults at least one. By the late summer all adults should have had two jabs. If the infections/deaths follow the same pattern in the next 12 months as they have in the previous year we will all have wasted our time rolling up our sleeves. And if that is the case the government will have to find a way of living with that situation other than by locking the country up.
anywhere you like, it seems, Sqad
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“There were no outbreaks linked to public beaches. There’s never been a Covid-19 outbreak linked to a beach, ever, anywhere in the world, to the best of my knowledge.”
I was looking out for a summer spike myself, and surprised when it never came.
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“There were no outbreaks linked to public beaches. There’s never been a Covid-19 outbreak linked to a beach, ever, anywhere in the world, to the best of my knowledge.”
I was looking out for a summer spike myself, and surprised when it never came.
Agree with that judge. But that's July. Mass gatherings now breathing over police and mates wont help tho I accept outdoors is alot saferthan indoors. But it's the violence a dont like. Seen the pictures from Bristol? People jumping on top of and rocking police Van's and pushing police. There nor frustrated by not being able to have a afternoon tea there spoiling for a fight
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