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Anyone Been Watching The Derek Chauvin Trial?

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Spicerack | 13:45 Wed 07th Apr 2021 | News
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I presume we're allowed to talk about it as it's all live-streamed on US tv.
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ZM a psychopath and a racist. Haha I have seen it all now. ZM and I have had many run-ins but let me assure you Untitled (or should it be unhinged looking at the rantings on this post) ZM has never displayed the traits of a psychopath nor has he ever displayed and signs of being a racist. I think an apology is in order for this one.
16:34 Thu 08th Apr 2021
I haven't watched it, but it's a dead cert that whichever way the verdict goes, there will be trouble.
No. No intention of watching it.
I’ve watched some of it .
Young Derek is being "hung out to dry" and there is no chance of a not guilty verdict.
So there will be no trouble with the above scenario.
Sqad - // Young Derek is being "hung out to dry" and there is no chance of a not guilty verdict. //

In what way is he being 'hung out to dry'?

The record for white officers being successfuly prosecuted for the deaths of black citizens hardly suggests such a situation.
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I thought they'd railroad him but he has an excellent defence attorney and the Judge seems firm but fair ( based on the objections he dismisses or upholds)
The prosecution appear to have a big team who all want their moment in the spotlight.
Strikes me the defence have a big advantage, going second and cross examining. If the prosecution 'redirect' it seems more a damage limitation exercise than anything else.
Of course, presumably, the boot will be on the other foot when (if) they call defence witnesses.
Remember that the prosecution have to persuade all the jurors that he is guilty; the defence only have to persuade one juror that there is reasonable doubt about his guilt.
I have not been watching live coverage of the trial on TV. But I have been reading press reports in US newspapers.
At the moment we are only hearing one side, so it is impossible to gauge how it is going. In a few weeks we should get a better feel.
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I was sure the Judge was going to lock up the woman who'd been taking pictures in the Court Building.
The Judge asked her 'Who are you'
'I'm with so and so' she whimpered (one of that day's teenage prosecution witnesses)
' With her' asked the Judge 'You mean you're family, a relative'?
'No, I'm PR. No, a press secretary' she gabbled.
' A press secretary'? spat the Judge.
'No' she cried ' I'm just here to protect her from the press'
After a deal of grovelling, the Judge relented and let her off with a warning.
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Not a great look when the prosecution witnesses have made life-changing sums of money, imo.
Can't say I blame them for cashing in though.
Would that be legal/considered ethical in British Courts?
I vaguely remember something similar in, I think, the Stephen Ward trial.
The Stephen Ward trial was 58 years ago.
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Obviously from one of the films depicting that trial, then. (if I haven't misremembered)
I would agree with Squad that he has been hung out to dry. Watching some of the trial, it is clear that the Minneapolis police force wants to make an example of him and otherwise disown him.

I’m struck by the number of police officers lining up to give evidence in support of the prosecution. Just how did the prosecution find these individuals without them being volunteered by the police force as worthy witnesses?
The prosecution are not having it all their own way:
'Indeed, after the judge dismissed Mercil from the witness stand, Prosecutor Schleiter appeared visibly shaken and angry—and he ought to have, given the mauling his case just received. At one point Mercil testified the he himself had personally kept a suspect physically restrained until EMS had arrived on scene, behavior which the state has been arguing for over a week was misconduct on the part of Chauvin.'
'Even worse, not only did the cross-examination of MacKenzie by the defense also go badly for the prosecution, it went so badly that Nelson informed the court that he intended to re-call MacKenzie as a defense witness when he presented his case in chief.'
'Nelson also once again put the use of pressure and body weight techniques in a favorable light. The state wants to present Chauvin’s knee in a negative light, as deadly mechanical asphyxiation, or as a “blood choke” as attested to by MMA Williams. In fact, however, the use of pressure and body weight to restrain a suspect was adopted by the MPD because it was a lesser intensity of force than the prior practice of using strikes—either barehanded, or with batons, or even with weighted gloves—to compel compliance. Mercil concurred.

The take home message for the jury is that Chauvin’s knee, far from being a public execution in a public street, was a lesser force than would otherwise have been required.'

Etc... There's much more here: https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/chauvin-trial-day-7-wrap-up-a-horrible-day-for-the-prosecution/?fbclid=IwAR3NCo-H44Q6TU3wPIDCtBwQywWJv6pGrA20EjFaeil51nSvZdphx5VqB98
This one, unlike Mr Floyd, will run and run.
'Young Derek' murdered someone.
Are Chauvin's fans defending him because he is white? Male? Police?
It's odd that the usual suspects are all lining up to be on his side. Surely we have to wait and see what the legal process decides?
Who are Chauvins fans Atheist?
Hymie: They don't have to be offered by the police. They are called as witnesses.
Shoota, the ones who are on his side regardless of the result of due process. I'm sure there aren't many like that here on AB.

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