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Shirley Williams Has Died
The former Labour Cabinet minister and founder of the Social Democratic Party has died aged 90. She sat as a Lib-Dem peer in the Lords.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.As an aside, I don't think they voted for Boris Johnson to take back sovereignty.
In these so called "red wall" seats (and elsewhere, but with less impact politically) people voted for Brexit for different reasons, but the point is they voted for it and unexpectedly that side won. Many may not ever have voted before for anything much less been on the winning side. And then it looked as if this small victory was going to be taken away from them: it reminds me a bit of the League of Gentlemen, and Geoff, Mike and Brian, the three mates, one of whom has had a pretty rotten time of it: he's especially jealous of Brian, who seems to have a perfect like, but Brian's mum dies before Geoff's does: "I won the mums" he says bitterly.
These people "won the mums" when it came to the refefendum, and irrespective of anything to do with soverignty (which quite honestly is cruel nonsense) they were damn sure it wasn't going to be taken from them.
And nor, in fairness, should it if possible.
In these so called "red wall" seats (and elsewhere, but with less impact politically) people voted for Brexit for different reasons, but the point is they voted for it and unexpectedly that side won. Many may not ever have voted before for anything much less been on the winning side. And then it looked as if this small victory was going to be taken away from them: it reminds me a bit of the League of Gentlemen, and Geoff, Mike and Brian, the three mates, one of whom has had a pretty rotten time of it: he's especially jealous of Brian, who seems to have a perfect like, but Brian's mum dies before Geoff's does: "I won the mums" he says bitterly.
These people "won the mums" when it came to the refefendum, and irrespective of anything to do with soverignty (which quite honestly is cruel nonsense) they were damn sure it wasn't going to be taken from them.
And nor, in fairness, should it if possible.
ich: "......and irrespective of anything to do with soverignty (which quite honestly is cruel nonsense)" - cobras, for most it was everything to do with sovereignty.
"they were damn sure it wasn't going to be taken from them." - you are correct there. Shame the massed hordes of the VBQC were so determined to thwart democracy, the democratic will of the majority.
"they were damn sure it wasn't going to be taken from them." - you are correct there. Shame the massed hordes of the VBQC were so determined to thwart democracy, the democratic will of the majority.
“ and irrespective of anything to do with soverignty (which quite honestly is cruel nonsense)”
I meant of course the reason people voted for Johnson in unlikely places in 2019. Of course “sovereignty” (a confusing and confused term) was one reason people voted Leave in the first place.
On “sovereignty” try telling people for example in NI who can’t buy English pot plants now that they are freer than in the bad old days ;-)
It’s the little things that matter ...
I meant of course the reason people voted for Johnson in unlikely places in 2019. Of course “sovereignty” (a confusing and confused term) was one reason people voted Leave in the first place.
On “sovereignty” try telling people for example in NI who can’t buy English pot plants now that they are freer than in the bad old days ;-)
It’s the little things that matter ...
Shirley Williams served in the Education Department and was instrumental in its policies from 1967, during this period Anthony Crosland, as secretary of state, had been evangelical in his determination to destroy the selective system of education. In her biography published in 1982, Crosland's widow Susan said he had told her: “If it’s the last thing I do, I’m going to destroy every f------ grammar school in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.”
They didn't quite make it, but caused tremendous destruction based on nothing more than a warped ideology.
They didn't quite make it, but caused tremendous destruction based on nothing more than a warped ideology.
// but caused tremendous destruction based on nothing more than a warped ideology.//
and did NOT increase the proportion of state school pupils going to oxbridge - - it went down
one of Jonathan Millers sons - who went to Pimlico comp - said " we were educated according to our parents' political principles and not our needs."
oo-er Mrs, he clearly didnt like the new system
and did NOT increase the proportion of state school pupils going to oxbridge - - it went down
one of Jonathan Millers sons - who went to Pimlico comp - said " we were educated according to our parents' political principles and not our needs."
oo-er Mrs, he clearly didnt like the new system
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