Cummings

[Paigntonian]

Assertions damning. Matt Hancock in serious trouble.

[emmie]

if he had all the answers, why didn't he speak out at the time.

[Peter Pedant]

// we all know Boris is a liar and we are happy to have a liar as our prime minister//

narfin new
"Mac was an inveterate liar - just couldnt tell the truth!"
and that was the wife of one of his cabinet colleagues ! - 1962

[Peter Pedant]

// if he had all the answers, why didn't he speak out at the time.//

on a different council I said that to one of my co-councillors and was told " you say it once and if it is ignored you dont say it again". I had been well and truly shafted by the council chmn

there was of course also the bags of sweeties the council chmn handed out

[emmie]

perhaps if they told the truth all the time, a) they wouldn't likely get elected b) no one would believe them.

[Sunk]

// why didn't he speak out at the time. //

He was Boris’ Advisor so he made his objections to the PM himself.
Publicly rubbishing the Prime Minister would have resulted in him getting the sack. So he concluded that it was better to stay on the inside and have some influence, than have a flounce and be in the wilderness.

[emmie]

i would rather leave than be a hypocrite. If you can see they are making a hash of it and aren't listening, then go, only sensible thing to do. he didn't, he was pushed.

[Ellipsis]

> i would rather leave than be a hypocrite.

If the MPs did that, we wouldn't have many left. Boris would be first out, obviously.

[Sunk]

emmie,
Did you listen to any of the testimony?

You seem to be asking questions which he answered in his evidence.
He claims he considered leaving in March, and then again in May, and then in September. He explained why he didn’t then but acknowledged that he should have gone in September not December.

[Hopkirk]

As far as I can see he is saying that before Boris understood how bad the situation was, he didn't understand how bad the situation was.

Not news.

[sunny-dave]

Watching this rank liar and hypocrite trying to rubbish another rank liar and hypocrite, I feel like a Liverpool supporter watching Man City play Man Utd - I want the rules changed so that they can both lose.

Can someone enlighten me - is Cumbo's current testimony under oath (or equivalent)? Can he be prosecuted for perjury if he is found to be lying here?

[emmie]

i watched some, but found it too dull for my taste. he had a lot to say im sure.

[emmie]

so three times he thought he should go, crikey talk about indecisive.

[woofgang]

emmie its like Gilbert and Sullivan's Pirates
"We go we gooooo"
"yes but you don't go"
https://www.gsarchive.net/pirates/web_op/pirates16.html

[maggiebee]

Aye, you know what happens when thieves fall out!

[emmie]

with hindsight and there isn't much of that about one wouldn't have hired Cummings in the first place.

[emmie]

i wonder who cummings thought more PM Material.
Gove, Rishi Sunak, i wonder if he thought Boris wasn't up to the job that he could have influence enough to select a different leader

[dannyk13]

Gove wouldn't have given him the time of day.

[emmie]

someone on here thinks that Gove would take him back as advisor if there was a push for a different leader.

[Jackdaw33]

If Boris should go, and I don't believe for a moment that he will, then Sunak seems best placed to fill his shoes. Gove et al have missed the boat.

[dannyk13]

Jack, I think Rishi lacks experience, may be OK in a couple of years.