Yes Day

[Just-Jude]

Will new health secretary Sajid Javid grab Covid 19 by the variants and get us all back to normal in July?

[ToraToraTora]

tell you what gully/ken, your turn, what are you offering on 19th being put back?

[Hopkirk]

It won't be Sajid's call anyway.

[Ken4155]

Where did i say it would be put back, TTT? I merely questioned your confidence.

[andy-hughes]

I think the way it's shaping up is, infections are going up, but hospitalisations and deaths are going down, and I think the government's initial plan which was to avoid the swamping of the NJS can be seen to have worked.

Yes it's a nasty condition, but so is flu, and the nation lives with that without major issues about isolation and so on.

[gulliver1]

22,868 new covid cases + 3 deaths in the last 24 hrs.
Not looking good for 19th.

[naomi24]

No need for you to be concerned, Gulliver. You don’t live here.

[Bobbisox1]

^^^ Indeed Naomi :0)

[New Judge]

//I think the government's initial plan which was to avoid the swamping of the NJS can be seen to have worked.//

I believe the plan has long since moved on from that simple aim, Andy. I believe, if it is allowed to get away with it, that this government will pursue a "zero Covid" policy.

[teacake44]

If we have to protect the NHS any further than we have already done so, you may as well close it down altogether. I would like to see a count for cancer deaths in the last 24 hours and positive tests for such. Its getting very silly now without a doubt.

[Sqad]

Gulliver has a point.
There has been no mention of the infamous "R" factor, all very quiet. It could well be that the number of new cases on July 21st may be 50,000. Ignoring hospitalisation and deaths, would you still recommend removing all restrictions?

Purely hypothetical you understand.

[Deskdiary]

If Gulliver has a point Sqad, you can rest assured he blindly and accidentally stumbled across it - a stopped clock is correct twice a day.

It is absurd to suggest that 3 deaths in the last 24 hours should mean the 19th should be delayed.

[douglas9401]

The government is currently looking at human life in general after the alarming discovery that many people die every day.

"The numbers are truly frightening" said nobody with half a brain and a grip on reality.

[Deskdiary]

^^^Indeed.

Give or take, there’s about 2000 RTA deaths a year on UK roads, so there’s more likelihood to have been more deaths on the road in the last 24 hours than Covid deaths.

[gulliver1]

If javid has any sense (then again he is a Tory) so its highly unlikely, he would Not lift sanctions on the 19th. But he probably will just to make himself popular with the Public,but later it will be the public that pay for it.

[gulliver1]

20.10 Deskdiary ,I have often wondered if a human can function with half a brain , you have proved it's possible.

[jourdain2]

He'd better. I have stopped wearing my lanyard explaining why I am exempt from masking. Everyone I have met today has more or less said that they, too are no longer totally compliant as a result of the Hancock fiasco. One worker at the garden centre was almost heartbroken. He was maskless (outside) and about to go into the building; fished in his pocket for a mask; couldn't find it and said 'What does it matter now anyway? I believed in him, thought he was right'. He then hoicked-up his collar to hold over his mouth and proceeded. Rebellion is fomenting quietly.

[bednobs]

i honestly dont understand that attitude of someone else did the wrong thing, therefore i should too (while simultaneously criticizing the original person doing rhe wrong thing)

[eve1974]

Bednobs I think its more that people no longer believe he suggested the right thing. So, (for me) if it was true (science n all that) that we oughta be socially distancing why didn't he?

(PS I gave up the mask malarkey 2 weeks back before the Hancock "leak" - oh and my husband is considered vulnerable so for much of this pandemic we have been ***ping ourselves.

But no more.

Initially yes - protect the NHS, protect the vulnerable etc but I stopped believing them a while back

[Sunk]

No.
He has instantly adopted the same stance that the Government have been doing for 18 months.
Ignore everything that is happening, pluck a date out of thin air, get to that date and delay further because the data says NOOOO!!!!

[New Judge]

//i honestly dont understand that attitude of someone else did the wrong thing,...//

Let me explain then.

It's because the person who "did the wrong thing" was instrumental in signing into law some of the most Draconian measures ever seen in this country. His name and signature appeared at the bottom of the document which provided for harsh criminal sanctions for transgressions which were made criminal offences when they were previously just things we did in everyday life. More than that, that same individual had been banging his tub incessantly for over a year, telling everybody how important it was that they complied with his instructions (which he made very clear, were not "requests").

Most people dutifully complied because they thought they were doing the right thing even though in may cases compliance caused them huge inconvenience and often personal heartache. One of the very worst things, he said, for the transmission of the virus, was for people of different households to mingle indoors. So you couldn't invite a neighbour in for a cup of tea. Then it transpires that the man himself who had signed the orders had broken the rules in the very way he told everybody they must avoid at all costs. So why, people now ask themselves' should they believe the blood-curdling warnings he has issued over the last year, designed to "protect the NHS", when he obviously doesn't believe them himself?

Now do you get it?