Texan Taliban

[Untitled]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58416805

Republicans in Texas have introduced a law expected to shut down all remaining abortion clinics in the state... and the conservative-dominated supreme court have not blocked it.

A terrible day for millions of Texan women... and a frightening precedent for the rest of the country.... Do the Republicans have a plan to de facto criminalise abortion in the USA?

[jno]

they can only do this in the states where they have a majority - and even there not all of them are quite so opposed to women having a say over their own bodies. It does all seem very 1950s, though.

[Spicerack]

Beats full term abortion, imo.

[andy-hughes]

Spicerack - // Beats full term abortion, imo. //

To deny any and all women in Teaxs the legal right to decide if they carry a foetus to term or not is morally wrong.

The fact that some of them may be advanced does not mean that the rule can be applied across the board - every situation is unique and should be assessed accordingly.

The notion of a standard denial to a fundamental right does not belong in a civilsed society.

[Spicerack]

It's not all women.

[237SJ]

They will just go to another state to have an abortion

[Peter Pedant]

yup
they have a plan to shut down abortion and reverse Roe v Wade.

I have not been able to track down the judgement which is said to be technical - the court has declined to issue a permissive order allowing the clinics to go on, until they give a definitive ruling.

[pastafreak]

I find these two points particularly worrying...
// An ordinary American, from Texas or elsewhere, may now be able to seek up to $10,000 (£7,200) in damages in a civil court against abortion providers and doctors - and possibly anyone at all involved in the process. That means people like clinic staff, family members, or clergy who encourage or support the procedure could, in theory, be sued.

The legislation makes an exception in the case of medical emergency, which requires written proof from a doctor, but not for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest. //

So ordinary staff could be sued including the receptionist.

[Untitled]

“ They will just go to another state to have an abortion”

if they can afford it.

[Untitled]

Indeed pasta… it is a law designed to intimidate.

I think we can expect republicans to try something like this in every state where they are given an opportunity.

[DTCwordfan]

It's the thin of the wedge if the Republicans take this forward into other State legislatures and, ultimately, securing an overthrow of Wade vs. Roe- which they have the clout in the Supreme Court. Texans behave like this to women's rights - remember the case of Andrea Yates and her post-natal depression....sentenced to death but then overturned...

[Spicerack]

It's already the law in several states.

[wolf63]

Regardless of whether people agree with Abortions it is frightening that the govt can make such a law.

The USA seems to be moving back to the dark ages with this policy.

Next they will want menstruating women to go hide from the world.

[Spicerack]

Andy, you think full term abortions belong in a civilized society?

[douglas9401]

You can talk about your Clementine and sing of Rosa Lee but Bubba's in charge y'all, and Yellow Roses of Texas better know their place.

[237SJ]

Untitled - it doesn't cost much to go to another State

[jno]

abortions are quite expensive anywhere without the added cost of going out of state, though.

[Untitled]

Plus time off work, sometimes childcare commitments etc...

[Untitled]

"Andy, you think full term abortions belong in a civilized society?"

In some circumstances yes... e.g. mother's life at risk.

But making abortion difficult or illegal does not stop it from happening anyway it just makes it more dangerous...

[ichkeria]

Everyone has their own private Taliban as we can see.

That’s the truth of it .

[emmie]

appalling decision...