Are French Waters Empty?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58894876

[davebro]

yes the EUs have emptied them!

[Khandro]

The problem for France is that the UN (no less) has decreed that the Med. is seriously overfished, controlling is done by how many days boats may go out. The French have lost many days & need to go elsewhere, Brexit has delivered a double whammy for them (don't cry TTT) losing fishing in what is now British waters & so they are going ape-sh-t .

[ToraToraTora]

yeah but the ones that fish in UK waters must be based on the non med coast, they have the entire bay of Biscay! Is that empty?

[ichkeria]

Well the bay of Biscay’s not a lot of good to a Norman or Breton fisherman

For example

[ToraToraTora]

why ich? it has fish, does it not? Or have the Spanish hoovered them all up?

[andres]

The fish breed in the shallow French waters but as they grow they navigate out and upwards into the North Sea. So I suppose that's why the French think they have some rights to these adult fish.

[Togo]

Over fished as is the Med. They want to make our coastal waters as barren as their own. Greed and illegal practices from mainly the French and Spanish trawlermen. Italy is not guilt free either. Spain will be the next shoulder to the wheel of EUSSR demands to our fish stocks after Morocco withdrew permission for them to fish within their recognised coastal waters. We now have an idea just how much illegal fishing was being carried out by the French for decades. The illegal trawlers cannot apply for licences under the new agreement because they have no invoices or fishing logs to prove they have been fishing here. More illegal fishing was being carried out than legal it would seem. Do you think that the French officials knew? You bet yer life they knew. Another fraudulent scam was being carried out right under our noses. Just who was paying off whom?

[ToraToraTora]

The BOB by the coast is on the same continental shelf as the North sea, The deep water is directly adjacent;
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gianreto-Manatschal/publication/282652050/figure/fig1/AS:284297928953861@1444793316336/Map-of-the-Bay-of-Biscay-and-Pyrenees-showing-the-major-tectonic-structures-and_Q640.jpg

[davebro]

Damn savages - should be keel hauled then whipped around the fleet & hung from the nearest yardarm.
In my considered opinion!

[Togo]

Which fish "breed in the French water before migrating to the North Sea?

[ToraToraTora]

sounded odd to be too Togs, especially as the Atlantic is more accessible and the shallow part of the BOB is not much different to the NS depth wise, they are on the same continental plate. ....and they'd have to swim up the Channel first!

[Togo]

The main species of fish that breed and used to be plentiful there are Sardines, Anchovies, Mackerel and some Blue Whiting. Some Tuna species breed in the deeper waters off the shelves. But the shelves are all but empty due to overfishing and poaching. No fish migrate wholesale from the Bay of Biscay to the North Sea. Even if they did how would that give the French the right of ownership? There are certain species that seem to breed at astonishingly fast rates in French territory and do indeed migrate. When they land on the beaches of Kent are the French demanding them back and claiming ownership? What would their response be if we said ...oy Pierre I think these are yours, they must have escaped.

[ABerrant]

It was the dire straits of the French fishing industry in the late 60s (mismanagement and overfishing of territorial waters) that prompted the EEC to slip the unannounced Common Fisheries Policy into the applications of candidate members UK, Ireland, Denmark (which included Greenland) and Norway, i.e. France would have access to the fish rich territorial waters of those new members. Norway held a referendum on the terms of accession and voted to withdraw the application. Ireland and Denmark voted to join. Britain didn't bother to ask its electorate.

[douglas9401]

French waters are not empty but levels are l'eau.

[Togo]

The French naval motto is "A l'eau c'est l'heure."

[Mozz71]

I hope they're not. All those forrin fishes invading our clean British waters. We shouldn't let them in!