Sir David Amess Murder Suspect ‘Radicalised After Watching Youtube Videos Of Hate Preacher Anjem Choudary’

[naomi24]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16450798/david-amess-murder-suspect-radicalise-anjem-choudary/

Why is this stuff still available n YouTube?

Choudary, in my opinion one of the most dangerous men in the country, was recently released from prison and the ban preventing him from speaking in public has been lifted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57878910

And just … why?

[Gromit]

Ali Harbi Ali had watched Anjem Choudary videos.
But they are not available on YouTube so he must have acquired them from websites or other repositories.

So it is a bit of a red herring to lambast the social media companies. They do more harm than good, but in this instance they are not guilty.

[Peter Pedant]

// As far as I'm aware he also has a Twitter account.//
guilty guilty guilty deffo then

[Peter Pedant]

// I knew I shouldn't have bothered asking. :o///
poor Naomi - plaintively

what question was that pray? - - why...

"PP, The same school as Choudary? Amess? Ali Harbi Ali?"
I agree N - you shouldnt have asked !
but hey it is raining outside and - - it is mainstream AB - and at least a hundred of the usual suspects will murmur: I bet he did you know ....

and meanwhile the MPs wish to be put into cotton wool
This didnt happen with Jo Cox did it? - shot and stabbed by a white racist.....

[Gromit]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/aug/16/twitter-youtube-anjem-choudary-social-media

[Khandro]

//This didnt happen with Jo Cox did it? - shot and stabbed by a white racist.....//

Yes a white perpetrator/maniac, but somewhere in his warped thinking lurked Islamic extremism - she embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into 'his' country.

[naomi24]

//SUSPECTED MP killer Ali Harbi Ali was radicalised after watching YouTube videos of hate preacher Anjem Choudary, former friends claimed last night.//

Videos of him spouting his bile are still there, gromit.

[naomi24]

PP, do stop with the tripe. This is the News section. Go and blather somewhere else.

[Ellipsis]

> Ali Harbi Ali had watched Anjem Choudary videos.
But they are not available on YouTube so he must have acquired them from websites or other repositories.

Gromit, The Sun headline is "TWISTED BY HATE Sir David Amess murder suspect ‘radicalised after watching YouTube videos of hate preacher Anjem Choudary’" and the first paragraph reads "SUSPECTED MP killer Ali Harbi Ali was radicalised after watching YouTube videos of hate preacher Anjem Choudary, former friends claimed last night."

I think perhaps he watched them a few years ago ...

> Yes a white perpetrator/maniac, but somewhere in his warped thinking lurked Islamic extremism - she embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into 'his' country.

What??? LOL, surely you're not saying that ...

[Gromit]

Either he watched videos on YouTube 5 years ago before they were removed, or he got them from another source.

I suspect the Sun writes ‘YouTube’ videos, when it means Online videos. Like people call all internet searching ‘Goggling’ when people might be using other search engines.

[naomi24]

None of that lets him off the hook.

[Peter Pedant]

o I see
Why is this stuff still available n YouTube?
answer:
it isnt still available n YouTube

o come on boys, this is AB, cut her a bit of slack, be fair

[Gromit]

// Videos of him spouting his bile are still there, gromit. //

I have looked and couldn’t find any. There are plenty of news items of him answering interviewers questions. Posted by the media outlets not Choudary.
If you have seen one of his hate preaching sermons on YouTube perhaps you could post a link.

[Stickybottle]

Gromit is just being argumentative for the sake of it
Same as yesterday in the Alex Scott thread
Sheer bloody mindedness
A man is murdered in horrific circumstances but let us focus on the semantics about the date of when a video was watched

[naomi24]

Gromit, //There are plenty of news items of him answering interviewers questions. Posted by the media outlets //

I've already said that ... and I've also said I won't be posting related links here - not even those links.

Wherever the murderer found his mentor, Choudary is a monster. Petty arguments don't change that.

[Gromit]

He watched videos of Choudary. But not recently on YouTube. It may have been when he was a schoolboy and was referred to the Prevent scheme. Perhaps his mind was poisoned then, and it was concentrated during the pandemic and lockdown.

[Khandro]

Ellipsis; I'll put it another way round: If past governments of various stripes had not allowed hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants into the UK, many of them unchecked, many of them entering illegally, would Jo Cox still be alive?

[Ellipsis]

I understood you the first time thanks, Khandro!

[naomi24]

Khandro, what you’re saying is a bit vague and could easily be misunderstood. Do you mean that the man murdered Jo Cox did it because she welcomed Muslims into the country? That’s how I read it but I think Ellipsis might be under the impression that you’re saying he was a closet Muslim.

[Ellipsis]

No, Ellipsis is not under that impression ...

[naomi24]

Gromit, listen to some of his answers in those interviews.