London

[gulliver1]

Why is there 700,000 children in London living in poverty, When there is so much wealth there amongs MPs and Bankers , and why do Children living in London have more chance of being brought up in Poverty than anywhere else in the UK ?

[webbo3]

Power to the errrr people?

[davebro]

yeah - The Tooting Popular Front!

[webbo3]

Thats the one, Wolfie Smith

[bobbinwales]

So as you ain't answered it's confirmed for me you still don't know what poverty means gulliver in 5his survey. Am not even sure the survey isn't made up as there's no link or source mentioned.

[bobbinwales]

Did you know what counts as poverty here is probably seen as rich by half of the world's population

[gulliver1]

Phip Hammond ..Con.... when he was Chancellor....said
There is no such thing as Poverty in England..... He is a Tory, so how would he know.

[gulliver1]

*****Philip ****

[pastafreak]

How poverty is measured/defined according to income...

https://www.trustforlondon.org.uk/data/poverty-thresholds/

[pastafreak]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/26/poverty-rate-among-working-households-in-uk-is-highest-ever

[New Judge]

Because of the definition of "poverty" that is used to calculate the 700,000, everybody in London could be earning more than £100,000 p.a and there would still be huge swathes of the population "in poverty". It is a comparative measure which bears no relationship to the dictionary definition of the word.

[naomi24]

gully, if you think children in this country are living in poverty for any reason other than parental neglect, you've never seen poverty.

[rowanwitch]

Remember the definition of poverty is different now, some of those will not be poor in the way it was seen when we were young however London is full of sink estates with next-generation households where two or more generations have never worked, higher than most of the country immigrant/refugee families and apart from hospitality and retail very few jobs for unskilled workers. If you factor in the almost impossible cost of housing even two income homeowner households can fall into the poverty trap.

[emmie]

my friends aren't poverty stricken, but most definitely need two incomes to keep their heads above water, same for many i reckon

[gulliver1]

So the streets of London ain't paved with Gold after all .

[emmie]

living here i can safely say they ain't paved with gold, never have been
unless very lucky, you def need two incomes to live here, and then some.

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ, how would you define poverty?

[ladybirder]

But you don't have two incomes Em do you?

[New Judge]

//NJ, how would you define poverty?//

Not having the ability to afford basic necessities, such as shelter, warmth, food and drink. If you have the money for those (of the basic variety) then you are not living in poverty.

[ladybirder]

There is a report somewhere which I have posted on here before which said that everyone in this country, however poor they think they are, still figure in the top 25% richest people in the world. Even the homeless can get a drink of water and a meal. Poverty, real poverty, is when you are lucky to get a drink of water.

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ, how would define "shelter, warmth, food and drink."? Is a tent, shelter and a fire made from burning broken branches warmth for example? How much food and drink would you allow? Is alcohol not a drink?

How would you calculate the costs of those requirements?