Omicron

[gulliver1]

"Don't Panic" says DCMO Jonathan Van Dam ...leave that to us...It is not time for doom and gloom about Omicron yet.....in the meantime tie Boris down and glue a mask to his face..
...so that he is wearing one at all times... Good advice.

[davebro]

I would report this for "pure stupidity" if I could remember my password!

[ToraToraTora]

Do you have a link to the story you'd like to discuss?

[ToraToraTora]

Gully, we have now established that you don't even believe your own BS, so why bother?

[gulliver1]

I Suppose Van -Tam is trying to tell the public "Dont Panic" Boris is in charge. not... CPl Jones.

[dannyk13]

Gulliver, glad to see that you have corrected Van Tam's name.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/29/dont-panic-government-covid-omicron-sketch

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Politics/Question1775033.html

[gulliver1]

Maybe it's a bit of a home goal , for not helping supply more Vaccines to South Africa .
It would have been Costly of course , and mean a little less money for the Sleaze party MPs to pocket, but it would help.

[bobbinwales]

Would you of given up your jab gulliver on order to offer it to South africa

[ToraToraTora]

The phrase is "own goal".

[middlemarch]

One of the South African doctors who was on TV reported that they had a surplus of vaccines so our giving up our vaccines would be pointless.

[gulliver1]

It was so nice to watch and listen to Van -Dam without Boris standing beside him muttering and stumbling, as he tries to sort his notes out that someone else had written for him , and not bothering to read them through before trying to speak.

[gulliver1]

At least we were spared from Boris making a Peppa Pig speech Again.

[gulliver1]

Why don't the Tories wear masks in the Commons? is it because Boris does not ..and they look to him for guidance and leadership,, or do they think they are Invincible.

[Peter Pedant]

// The phrase is "own goal".//

yeah foo and TTT should know, as a champion goal scorer himself er on his own !

various points arise : viruses dont usually mutate to mild in an epidemic - because that wd terminate the epidemic. So it wouldnt be an epidemic anymore.

The vaccine we agree ( seems ) to ameliorate the disease. And you can test for the vaccine by measureing antibody presence.

Three is better than two is better than one dose. - and we can agree on that because you dont die as much after 2 doses. So it works

What they have also said, is if your antibody level is 100 this is good, very good. And when it is 50 ( in lab units ) then it is bad. But this has not been linked with infection rate

They have also implied if the antibody is active against delta and the lab shows it is less for omicron, then omicron must be a danger. Actually you can wait and see if the omicrons die, and if they do says "oops it looks as tho they were right!"

and we are now into a week and they should have started dying by now

I mean you know there are a few hundred with it in Europe now.

Moderna have said they think it is a problem, omicron, and he isnt allowed to come out with share price sensitive info without back up. So I wonder..... if the govt has stuff they havent told us....

we have to wait andsee

[Peter Pedant]

omicron fatality ratio

https://www.cityam.com/covid-death-rate-not-rising-swap-travel-restrictions-and-mass-hysteria-for-cautious-optimism-as-omicron-mutation-is-super-mild-variant-who-and-coronavirus-experts-say/

nil so far in Europe apparently

[bobbinwales]

//Why don't the Tories wear masks in the Commons? is it because Boris does not ..and they look to him for guidance and leadership,, or do they think they are Invincible.//
It wasnt mandatory until today. They were told by Savid Javid to wear them a few weeks ago when they was criticised for looking arrogant compared to other partys and most of them started. Hopefully they all will now.

Of course as your a fair person gulliver who sticks to your principles you'll be condemming diddlydo who is refusing to wear masks as an act of civil disobedience

[Peter Pedant]

yeah after two years - - I am a bit rooly
as opposed to unruly

wear mask coz Miss said so
rather than I wear one because I know it works.

[gulliver1]

So Boris can not make his mind up about a Lockdown over Christmas .There are now 22 Omicron cases in the UK . Stop dithering like you did last time Boris and take action now before it's too late , you can not play politics with peoples lives.

[bobbinwales]

Who says his dithering (I know he often does but the scientists are all saying the actions is proportionate. Theres no evidence yet AFAIK thats its more dangerous than other variants. I think its abit early to be saying theres been no deaths (as PP said) but some are saying its effects are milder than others. Best just to leave it to the scientists rather than cause panic. Just tell your B mate diddlydo to stop refusing to wear a mask , thats a start

[Peter Pedant]

// you can not play politics with peoples lives.//
no one has died so far from omicron gully