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Apparently things tend to mutate to be less harmful. It makes sense because killing off your host is not the best survival strategy.
22:27 Wed 01st Dec 2021
//NJ said half of the 50 000 cases were dobly jabbed//
Did he? Perhaps you could point me to it. As far as I recall I have never mentioned anything about anybody being double jabbed. I also never mentioned anything about those suffering from the new variant. What I said was that half the people who have Covid don't know they have it (or, put another way, the actual number of new infections is twice the declared figure). There are plenty of studies which suggest this if you care to look for them. Some estimates are as low as 35%, some as high as 75%. I've used 50% as a rough average.
What your posts at 16:50 and 19:33 are going on about is anybody's guess. All very interesting I'm sure but they have no relevance to anything I've said. But as you often say - "Hey! This is AB after all!"
Did he? Perhaps you could point me to it. As far as I recall I have never mentioned anything about anybody being double jabbed. I also never mentioned anything about those suffering from the new variant. What I said was that half the people who have Covid don't know they have it (or, put another way, the actual number of new infections is twice the declared figure). There are plenty of studies which suggest this if you care to look for them. Some estimates are as low as 35%, some as high as 75%. I've used 50% as a rough average.
What your posts at 16:50 and 19:33 are going on about is anybody's guess. All very interesting I'm sure but they have no relevance to anything I've said. But as you often say - "Hey! This is AB after all!"
So just because there are some people who are carrying the virus without knowing because they haven't been tested you think the other infected ones who know there positive might aswell go out and freely infect people. So make things twice as bad. Maybe you need to think again. 99%of health professionals and most business leaders or economist would disagree as they want to se the covud situation controlled asmuch as possible rather than risk the lockdowns
// Some estimates are as low as 35%,//
no they ( some estimates) are as low as 1.82%
and ( maths is not your forte) 20 x 1.82 is around 50 which is the figure you gave 25 is better - times not percent. and I suggest that a variation of 25x ( 2400% that is) is nonsensical
as for making sense, I dont have to make sense: I am not a judge
no they ( some estimates) are as low as 1.82%
and ( maths is not your forte) 20 x 1.82 is around 50 which is the figure you gave 25 is better - times not percent. and I suggest that a variation of 25x ( 2400% that is) is nonsensical
as for making sense, I dont have to make sense: I am not a judge
as for Neuron and spanish flu - there is no much to teach us ( it killed the young 15-34 and left the olds untouched)
review here
https:/
(includes the gruesome young lady who dug up the Inuit with flu). I cant find the antibody prevalence for spanish flu- that would allow estimation of the r number.
review here
https:/
(includes the gruesome young lady who dug up the Inuit with flu). I cant find the antibody prevalence for spanish flu- that would allow estimation of the r number.
You're forgiven, Peter. Apology accepted.
//So just because there are some people who are carrying the virus without knowing because they haven't been tested you think the other infected ones who know there positive might aswell go out and freely infect people.//
Only the ones displaying symptoms would know they have it because they are the only ones who should be tested. The disease is now preventable and treatable and mass testing of people who are not ill is unnecessary. It's causing continued fear and alarm, it's causing economic damage and jeopardises the wellbeing of vast numbers of people. Unless and until the disease reverts to being unpreventable and untreatable life should resume as near as possible to normal. We cannot continue to jump like scared rabbits every time the virus mutates to something different. And you still haven't said what it will take for you to be happy for this current situation to end.
//and ( maths is not your forte) 20 x 1.82 is around 50 which is the figure you gave 25 is better - times not percent. and I suggest that a variation of 25x ( 2400% that is) is nonsensical//
Sorry, but I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about, Peter. And despite maths allegedly not being my forte (which I take it is an assumption based on nothing at all) 20 x 1.82 is 36.4 - a good way from 50, I think (though I still don't know what that has to do with the price of fish).
//So just because there are some people who are carrying the virus without knowing because they haven't been tested you think the other infected ones who know there positive might aswell go out and freely infect people.//
Only the ones displaying symptoms would know they have it because they are the only ones who should be tested. The disease is now preventable and treatable and mass testing of people who are not ill is unnecessary. It's causing continued fear and alarm, it's causing economic damage and jeopardises the wellbeing of vast numbers of people. Unless and until the disease reverts to being unpreventable and untreatable life should resume as near as possible to normal. We cannot continue to jump like scared rabbits every time the virus mutates to something different. And you still haven't said what it will take for you to be happy for this current situation to end.
//and ( maths is not your forte) 20 x 1.82 is around 50 which is the figure you gave 25 is better - times not percent. and I suggest that a variation of 25x ( 2400% that is) is nonsensical//
Sorry, but I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about, Peter. And despite maths allegedly not being my forte (which I take it is an assumption based on nothing at all) 20 x 1.82 is 36.4 - a good way from 50, I think (though I still don't know what that has to do with the price of fish).
Neuron mentioned spanish flu and its lessons - ( none)
and how it ended
( not natural immunity - herd immunity)
is dealt with here
https:/
and it gives the prevalence of antibodies ( sortta frozen in aspic) to the spanish flu virus of 30%. - - - they even secured antibodies to the 1888 stockholm . It came up in our lectures in 1970
https:/
and to answer ( well inform) Neuron - if the herd immunity of 30% ended the spanish flu epidemic, then the R number ( I calculate) was around 1.15. Omicron times today, estimated R >2
https:/
Flu virology and anti-body-ology was a big deal in the seventies
and how it ended
( not natural immunity - herd immunity)
is dealt with here
https:/
and it gives the prevalence of antibodies ( sortta frozen in aspic) to the spanish flu virus of 30%. - - - they even secured antibodies to the 1888 stockholm . It came up in our lectures in 1970
https:/
and to answer ( well inform) Neuron - if the herd immunity of 30% ended the spanish flu epidemic, then the R number ( I calculate) was around 1.15. Omicron times today, estimated R >2
https:/
Flu virology and anti-body-ology was a big deal in the seventies
someone wrote: Some carrier estimates are as low as 35%,
I found a paper where the estimate of the carriers was 1.82%
and the difference is a factor of: 20 x 1.82 is 36.4
twenty - a factor of twenty not twenty percent
Practically speaking I dont believe all 61 of the infected south africans were asymptomatic carriers - I think they were flying when they knew they were ill.
I found a paper where the estimate of the carriers was 1.82%
and the difference is a factor of: 20 x 1.82 is 36.4
twenty - a factor of twenty not twenty percent
Practically speaking I dont believe all 61 of the infected south africans were asymptomatic carriers - I think they were flying when they knew they were ill.
The headlines are still
scaremongering about the number of infections, yet again nothing about how many are actually hospital, which is what the vaccines are all about, keeping people out of hospital but many seem to losing sight of this, helped by the media's sensationalist headlines. Everyone please just get a grip for goodness sake.
scaremongering about the number of infections, yet again nothing about how many are actually hospital, which is what the vaccines are all about, keeping people out of hospital but many seem to losing sight of this, helped by the media's sensationalist headlines. Everyone please just get a grip for goodness sake.
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