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Bleak Omnicron Prediction
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Possible 75,000 deaths by April.
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Possible 75,000 deaths by April.
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Let's see what the picture is in 2 weeks when we see whether the upsurge in cases means more hospital cases and more deaths. Obviously there's nome or few known deaths as there was hardly ant cases 3weeks ago. If its turns out to be not to harmful then great. If as is more likely it rips through the unboosted then we'll be saying why didn't they act stricter
// Run faster.scream louder,hide deeper under the stairs?//
, quo cruciatu animi vitam acturum fuisse?
Cicero, De Divinatione 2. 22–23 - - cicero asks in what agony of mind would Caesar have led his life ( if he had known that in front of the statue of Pompey, full view of centurions, surrounded by senators he had mainly appointed....) he would be stabbed and DDDDIIIIIIEEEEE!
kinda would he have run under the stairs.... in Latin of course
makes sense to me
so why do wish to know the future ?
here so we can modify ( like you know NOT die) our future by changing our behaviour - fewer parties fewer invitees, wear masks, no kissing with tongues
but we always really knew that innit?
sozza about the latin - but after the bathsheba everdene thread, just write what you want and saddit.
, quo cruciatu animi vitam acturum fuisse?
Cicero, De Divinatione 2. 22–23 - - cicero asks in what agony of mind would Caesar have led his life ( if he had known that in front of the statue of Pompey, full view of centurions, surrounded by senators he had mainly appointed....) he would be stabbed and DDDDIIIIIIEEEEE!
kinda would he have run under the stairs.... in Latin of course
makes sense to me
so why do wish to know the future ?
here so we can modify ( like you know NOT die) our future by changing our behaviour - fewer parties fewer invitees, wear masks, no kissing with tongues
but we always really knew that innit?
sozza about the latin - but after the bathsheba everdene thread, just write what you want and saddit.
I know, jno :-)
Either we are in a pandemic or we need to live with this - If it's the first, then restrictions have been eased too much, if it's the latter, can't we just do as we're doing now and let people have their operations and tests?
I think I'm just sick of the media putting their opinions out there.
Either we are in a pandemic or we need to live with this - If it's the first, then restrictions have been eased too much, if it's the latter, can't we just do as we're doing now and let people have their operations and tests?
I think I'm just sick of the media putting their opinions out there.
the experts quite naturally want their 15 m of fame
They ALL want ( I count myself amongst them ] a fluffy Beeb hack to enthuse on camera:" Hi X (- Peter in my case, for slow readers) you always put it in a way we understand and here we are a week later with more fascinating questions. Here we have Bucky from Lundy Island, [Man with knotted handkerchief and short appears] - "Does vaccinay-ay - duh jab give you brayne damage?- I dont have much braynz anway, I need all I have . I post on AB." .... and you're off! jibber jabber ( pun intended)
You:(me) "well that doesnt make you a bad man...." you begin
Back in reality: and so the experts were giving advice outside their knowledge - computer modellers on the need and quality of isolation. One professor said that the only way to know an infection was direct viral culture. Oops no, that is only ( some ) bacteria.
NOW - two years later - their employers have insisted they speak outside their employment - did you hear - "Prof Braynstawm is a consultant at a trust and these are NOT the trust's views."
Prof B for it is he: yes I made my way oudda my office down to A+E, used to call it Cazz in my day - I have a cat called Cazz you know...did it by following the signs - "Dead people this way". Did it once before we moved ( went to cas) twenty years ago. It is absolutely living hell, they re all dead - the staff I mean...."
Prof B lucky fellow if he is on sage or was once,
is also now forced to say -" I am a Sage but these are my personal views and may not reflect the views Sage gives the govt"
so we have had computer modellers on isolation measures
a clinician on how to culture viruses in the lab
they all should be on AB you know- blaarting
nd yes I think I have seen a radiologist on covid infections
( someone stabbing an X ray)
so NOW it is much better
the expert doctors tell you what they are expert in. This limits their fertile imaginations whilst they seek fame and of course govt grants for their labs/wards/ITU/services
I think we are in the third week of omicron and so they should have started dying by now
Progress!
They ALL want ( I count myself amongst them ] a fluffy Beeb hack to enthuse on camera:" Hi X (- Peter in my case, for slow readers) you always put it in a way we understand and here we are a week later with more fascinating questions. Here we have Bucky from Lundy Island, [Man with knotted handkerchief and short appears] - "Does vaccinay-ay - duh jab give you brayne damage?- I dont have much braynz anway, I need all I have . I post on AB." .... and you're off! jibber jabber ( pun intended)
You:(me) "well that doesnt make you a bad man...." you begin
Back in reality: and so the experts were giving advice outside their knowledge - computer modellers on the need and quality of isolation. One professor said that the only way to know an infection was direct viral culture. Oops no, that is only ( some ) bacteria.
NOW - two years later - their employers have insisted they speak outside their employment - did you hear - "Prof Braynstawm is a consultant at a trust and these are NOT the trust's views."
Prof B for it is he: yes I made my way oudda my office down to A+E, used to call it Cazz in my day - I have a cat called Cazz you know...did it by following the signs - "Dead people this way". Did it once before we moved ( went to cas) twenty years ago. It is absolutely living hell, they re all dead - the staff I mean...."
Prof B lucky fellow if he is on sage or was once,
is also now forced to say -" I am a Sage but these are my personal views and may not reflect the views Sage gives the govt"
so we have had computer modellers on isolation measures
a clinician on how to culture viruses in the lab
they all should be on AB you know- blaarting
nd yes I think I have seen a radiologist on covid infections
( someone stabbing an X ray)
so NOW it is much better
the expert doctors tell you what they are expert in. This limits their fertile imaginations whilst they seek fame and of course govt grants for their labs/wards/ITU/services
I think we are in the third week of omicron and so they should have started dying by now
Progress!
Youra drama queen dougkas. Am just saying you or I don't know, the scientists seem concerned, let's just wait and see. If it turns out the scientists were wrong and its harmless and hospital cases and deaths don't rise then scoff at them late, but better safe than sorry.... no major goverment in the world is saying lets do nothing and see how many 1000s it kills before we do anything
Update on omicron varient. Apparently there have now been some hospitalisations.
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//“These are early estimates, but they do suggest that, overall, Omicron is outcompeting Delta rapidly by evading vaccines to a substantial degree.
“If current trends continue, then Omicron may represent half of UK cases by the end of December.”//
// Dr Nick Davies, one of the researchers, said Omicron was spreading "very fast", was "quite concerning" and was likely to be the dominant form of the virus in England by the end of the year.
The report says the number of people infected is currently doubling every 2.4 days in England. //
And what, out of all that, makes it particularly “deadly”?
//But the true number is likely to be far higher.//
Indeed it is. And the vast majority of those not counted towards the true figure are almost certainly unaware that they have contracted the virus and will get over it without knowing they have had it. This country is now stumbling towards another round of restrictions on its people’s liberties, imposed, salami-style, each imposition only a “little bit” more severe than the previous one, but each one having an increasingly pernicious and cumulative influence. The NHS has had two years to build some resilience against the pandemic taking hold again. Instead of building that resilience it has now fewer overnight beds and fewer IC beds than it had at the start. So once again the treatment of other illnesses, the economy and children’s education are all in jeopardy when there is scant evidence that the new variant will cause any greater problems than the earlier versions. And once again people’s basic liberties remain subject to the whims of ministers and their advisors, liable to be withdrawn at a moment’s notice whenever somebody thinks that something might upset the ability of the NHS to cope. Again, restrictions on people’s fundamental freedoms are being imposed and threatened in order to control demand on the country’s health service, which is blatantly unfit for purpose.
And what of the measures themselves? Many of them are illogical and will have no influence on the spread of the virus whatsoever. I am often told I would do well to heed the advice of “experts”. So perhaps somebody can help me with this: one of the measures - presumably devised by experts - is that people should once again work from home where possible and not work in an office. But you can go to a pub or a restaurant unhindered. One of my relatives has been told to work from home from tomorrow. However, they have an office Christmas bash organised for midweek, meeting in a pub before going on to a restaurant. So they can spend four or five hours together socialising, but the same people cannot spend the day working in a socially distanced office before doing so. If you have a logical explanation for that, try this: If I go into a pub I can spend four hours in there amongst a number of people, no mask required. If I pop next door to the empty newsagents to get my paper, I have to mask up. Am I expected to give credibility to this utter nonsense?
“If current trends continue, then Omicron may represent half of UK cases by the end of December.”//
// Dr Nick Davies, one of the researchers, said Omicron was spreading "very fast", was "quite concerning" and was likely to be the dominant form of the virus in England by the end of the year.
The report says the number of people infected is currently doubling every 2.4 days in England. //
And what, out of all that, makes it particularly “deadly”?
//But the true number is likely to be far higher.//
Indeed it is. And the vast majority of those not counted towards the true figure are almost certainly unaware that they have contracted the virus and will get over it without knowing they have had it. This country is now stumbling towards another round of restrictions on its people’s liberties, imposed, salami-style, each imposition only a “little bit” more severe than the previous one, but each one having an increasingly pernicious and cumulative influence. The NHS has had two years to build some resilience against the pandemic taking hold again. Instead of building that resilience it has now fewer overnight beds and fewer IC beds than it had at the start. So once again the treatment of other illnesses, the economy and children’s education are all in jeopardy when there is scant evidence that the new variant will cause any greater problems than the earlier versions. And once again people’s basic liberties remain subject to the whims of ministers and their advisors, liable to be withdrawn at a moment’s notice whenever somebody thinks that something might upset the ability of the NHS to cope. Again, restrictions on people’s fundamental freedoms are being imposed and threatened in order to control demand on the country’s health service, which is blatantly unfit for purpose.
And what of the measures themselves? Many of them are illogical and will have no influence on the spread of the virus whatsoever. I am often told I would do well to heed the advice of “experts”. So perhaps somebody can help me with this: one of the measures - presumably devised by experts - is that people should once again work from home where possible and not work in an office. But you can go to a pub or a restaurant unhindered. One of my relatives has been told to work from home from tomorrow. However, they have an office Christmas bash organised for midweek, meeting in a pub before going on to a restaurant. So they can spend four or five hours together socialising, but the same people cannot spend the day working in a socially distanced office before doing so. If you have a logical explanation for that, try this: If I go into a pub I can spend four hours in there amongst a number of people, no mask required. If I pop next door to the empty newsagents to get my paper, I have to mask up. Am I expected to give credibility to this utter nonsense?
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