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Tony Blair's Knighthood.
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ich - // And I didn’t agree with the war against Iraq but it wasn’t “illegal”. There are no legal or illegal wars, just wars. //
That's not actually true.
The military action whcih Blair insitgated was not officially sanctioned by parliament, therefore, in a true sense, it was illegal.
// The war v Iraq was a cakewalk for the allies. //
I think the families of those who lost loved ones in the conflict, or who came home with life-changing injuries, might well dispute your assessment of the war as a 'cakewalk' for anyone involved, from either side.
That's not actually true.
The military action whcih Blair insitgated was not officially sanctioned by parliament, therefore, in a true sense, it was illegal.
// The war v Iraq was a cakewalk for the allies. //
I think the families of those who lost loved ones in the conflict, or who came home with life-changing injuries, might well dispute your assessment of the war as a 'cakewalk' for anyone involved, from either side.
Keir Starmer said - "The last Labour government delivered enduring change from the national minimum wage to the peace process in Northern Ireland.
"My congratulations to Tony Blair on this recognition for his public service to our country."
That's rather like applauding a convicted serial killer because he raised a few grand for the loca cats home.
Doing good in one area does not give you a swerve from the consequences of obliterating that good by something as utterly unconcionable as taking the country in to a war it could never win.
"My congratulations to Tony Blair on this recognition for his public service to our country."
That's rather like applauding a convicted serial killer because he raised a few grand for the loca cats home.
Doing good in one area does not give you a swerve from the consequences of obliterating that good by something as utterly unconcionable as taking the country in to a war it could never win.
"The military action whcih Blair insitgated was not officially sanctioned by parliament, therefore, in a true sense, it was illegal.
Wars don't have to be sanctioned by parliament. There was no formal vote to declare war on Germany in 1939 for example and international law is largely unwritten. As for UK law, it would have been irrelevant anyway as the wars per se would have gone ahead no matter what Blair did. So the idea that for example the invasion of Iraq was "illegal" is purely a matter of opinion.
// The war v Iraq was a cakewalk for the allies. //
I think the families of those who lost loved ones in the conflict, or who came home with life-changing injuries, might well dispute your assessment of the war as a 'cakewalk' for anyone involved, from either side.
Most of the casualties occurred in the aftermath of the actual war, which was very short. As I say, it was very badly planned.
Wars don't have to be sanctioned by parliament. There was no formal vote to declare war on Germany in 1939 for example and international law is largely unwritten. As for UK law, it would have been irrelevant anyway as the wars per se would have gone ahead no matter what Blair did. So the idea that for example the invasion of Iraq was "illegal" is purely a matter of opinion.
// The war v Iraq was a cakewalk for the allies. //
I think the families of those who lost loved ones in the conflict, or who came home with life-changing injuries, might well dispute your assessment of the war as a 'cakewalk' for anyone involved, from either side.
Most of the casualties occurred in the aftermath of the actual war, which was very short. As I say, it was very badly planned.
"Yes - because he took this country to war based on what he knew to be false information. "
Incorrect. The Chilcott Inquiry criticised the war on several counts but it absolved Blair of the charge that he mislead anyone over WMD.
So one can criticise the war, and I certainly do, but one cannot do so fairly on those grounds
Incorrect. The Chilcott Inquiry criticised the war on several counts but it absolved Blair of the charge that he mislead anyone over WMD.
So one can criticise the war, and I certainly do, but one cannot do so fairly on those grounds
ich -
As I posted -
// I think the families of those who lost loved ones in the conflict, or who came home with life-changing injuries, might well dispute your assessment of the war as a 'cakewalk' for anyone involved, from either side. //
To which you replied - // Most of the casualties occurred in the aftermath of the actual war, which was very short. As I say, it was very badly planned. //
Leaving aside the fact that, were Britain not involved by Blair, there would have been casualties, your apparent excusing of Blair's actions is that 'most casualties' occurred afterwards - as though that gives him a free pass for his part in the injuries and deaths.
As far as I am concerned, if one soldier came back with a grain of sand in his eye, that's an unacceptable injury sustained for no good reason right there.
So the rest is utterly unacceptable, and remains so forever, and I don't care if Tony Blair finds a cure for cancer, he has blood on his hands until the day he dies.
As I posted -
// I think the families of those who lost loved ones in the conflict, or who came home with life-changing injuries, might well dispute your assessment of the war as a 'cakewalk' for anyone involved, from either side. //
To which you replied - // Most of the casualties occurred in the aftermath of the actual war, which was very short. As I say, it was very badly planned. //
Leaving aside the fact that, were Britain not involved by Blair, there would have been casualties, your apparent excusing of Blair's actions is that 'most casualties' occurred afterwards - as though that gives him a free pass for his part in the injuries and deaths.
As far as I am concerned, if one soldier came back with a grain of sand in his eye, that's an unacceptable injury sustained for no good reason right there.
So the rest is utterly unacceptable, and remains so forever, and I don't care if Tony Blair finds a cure for cancer, he has blood on his hands until the day he dies.
You are able to register your disquiet here. Look at the face when the mask slips.
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