Has H R H Got A Get Out Of Jail Free Card

[Stickybottle]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59857168

I wonder if he has rediscovered the ability to sweat ?
No doubt he is !

[tamborine]

These girls were willingly employed as Masseures. They soon knew how to take advantage of men while massaging them, nb their massages had no advantage on women. The income brought the girls back for more ‘work’, none forced to work! The girls whole case is just vindictive & greedy.

[Mozz71]

Tambo, those girls were groomed as children by a known and convicted paedophile. They deserve all they can get out of those who used them.

[tamborine]

17 is not a child.

[naomi24]

You can't generalise but you seem to have decided that each and every girl is an innocent victim - and that I simply do not believe. The accuser was 16 when she met Maxwell and says she had sex with Andrew three times in three different locations across the world - so she didn't exactly run away - and at 16/17 she was certainly not the victim of a paedophile.

[Mozz71]

In the States, 16 is legally a child and Epstein was a known paedophile. No, she wasn't totally innocent, but by the same token, she was still a victim.

[naomi24]

She was 17 when she met Andrew. The age of consent in New York is 17. I think she knew exactly what she was doing - and enjoying the high life that went with it.

[davebro]

I think anyone would feel hard done by - "OK, we've had our fun with you, you've sampled the high life. Now back to your slum you little trollop!"

[Ellipsis]

Have you seen "Taken"? The Liam Neeson movie. Neeson plays Bryan Mills. Spoilers follow!

Mills's 17-year-old daughter, Kim, gets sex trafficked and ends up being bought by some sheikh and shipped off on his private yacht. Neeson tracks her down, rescues her and kills or maims everyone else.

According to some here, Kim was 17 so it's all OK - her choice to be sex-trafficked - and Mills should have just left her to it.

[naomi24]

//Now back to your slum you little trollop!" //

And here's half a million dollars to be going on with...

[Khandro]

This isn't a movie

[davebro]

//Now back to your slum you little trollop!" //

And here's half a million dollars to be going on with...

She didn't get the payoff until she threatened legal action presumably.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // This isn't a movie //

You appear to have adopted naomi's habit - when you post something, and someone else either argues successfully against your point, or simply demolishes it is morally wrong, you simply ignore it and carry on posting as if the exchange never took place.

But don't worry, the exchanges are still there for everyone to see.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // //Now back to your slum you little trollop!" //

And here's half a million dollars to be going on with... //

If everyone was happy, and 'she knew exactly what she was doing' - then why the need to pay her off to the tune of half-a-million dollars to buy her silence?

Surely if he was happy and she was happy, there's no problem to be paid off ... except there was.

[royfromaus]

naomi24
She was 17 when she met Andrew. The age of consent in New York is 17. I think she knew exactly what she was doing - and enjoying the high life that went with it.
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So when Sharon from Rotherham who was groomed at 14 was passed on from her original abuser to an abuser in say Oxford at the age of 16...the Oxford abuser should have a clear conscience because she of legal age ?

[Spicerack]

They would have had to call the film Groomed for your analogy to make much sense, ellipses. It was called Taken.

[Cloverjo]

Epstein is not a convicted paedophile. I don’t want to defend the despicable man nor his odious former girlfriend, but facts matter. He has not been convicted of any offence with a pre-pubescent child.

[naomi24]

No Roy. The point is if she was 17 then Andrew, as brainless as he is and as entitled as he thinks he is, has committed no crime.

[royfromaus]

Do you think he knew of Epstein's shenanigans with young women?

[dannyk13]

She is claiming that she was 'sex trafficked' when she was 16 and sexually abused when she was 17.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58871849

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // No Roy. The point is if she was 17 then Andrew, as brainless as he is and as entitled as he thinks he is, has committed no crime. //

No naomi. The point is, if she was trafficked and forced to have sex, then Andrew, brainless as he is and entitled as he thinks he is, has committed a crime.