It's Good To Have A Dream.......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59862654

[ichkeria]

What you mean like "Agent Cob" returning to lead the Labour Party ;-)

[Bobbisox1]

He’s a wet lettuce !

[douglas9401]

Conservative Party chairman Oliver Dowden said: "New year, same old platitudes from Keir Starmer" while skirting around sundry empty promises made by his boss and the Coterie of Inadequates.

If I was to invest my faith in a politician I'd opt for one resembling an adult rather than a shambling, unkempt schoolboy.

[ToraToraTora]

yes doug but who would you back to win the 2024 GE?

[Atheist]

TTT, you seem to be a gambler and a chancer, always keen to lay a bet, and so I can see why you identify with Johnson. Not everyone feels like you.
"And here's to you, my gambling boy, may all your gambles bring you joy...."

[douglas9401]

It's not a horse race, Tora, regardless of how hard the Tories work to give the impression of a stud farm.

[ToraToraTora]

I think we all know that no matter what the anti tory mob think even they know they cannot win the next GE and probably the one after that.

[brian j john]

You've got to have a dream
If you don't have a dream
How you gonna have a dream come true

[Mozz71]

He should probably concentrate on restoring trust in his own party if he has any ambition to govern the country.

[Gromit]

What is the point of an 80 seat majority when you have to rely on Labour to get your policies through because you have lost control of your own troops.
Boris has lost vision (if he ever had it). He is head of a shambles and people are beginning to get fed up with it.
You are right that Labour have a mountain to climb. I agree Starmer is no Edmund Hilary. But the mountain is melting. A trickle at first.
Your faith in Boris is touching. Your utter devotion is admirable.
But you are making a big mistake putting your faith in Johnson. He will let you down. Eventually.

[ToraToraTora]

That's one issue gromit, does any PM want totally blind obedient drones? Do you think Rodders will become the 4th Labour leader to win an election?

[ToraToraTora]

My faith and devotion is to the party not Boris personally.

[Atheist]

Aaah. TTT has faith and devotion. He's basically a religious person ater all.

[Mozz71]

Tora, you know how you have a go at Gulliver for posting the same old rubbish time and time again?

Well, this:
"...4th Labour leader to win an election?"
is getting old now.

[Gromit]

Thatcher and Blair were successful because they were astute. And ruthless. Boris is neither.
He doesn’t have mindless drones, he surrounds himself with incompetent idiots. Patel, Hancock Raab - all spectacular failures, but he sticks by them because anyone with any talent is a threat to him. So they gradually get weaker. 29,000 swing against them. The trickle will be a strong current by 2024.

[ToraToraTora]

well Gulliver set the precedent and he's the teacher's pet, who am I to buck the trend.

[ToraToraTora]

so you'll take my regularly offered bet then gromit? Or do you not believe your own view?

[Mozz71]

//well Gulliver set the precedent and he's the teacher's pet, who am I to buck the trend.//

Then you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to whining about Gulliver. End of.

[Gromit]

Of course I won’t take up your bet.

[andy-hughes]

I think Keir has got the the wrong way round - he needs to restore faith and respect in order to win an election, not win on the basis of promising what should be delivered as a matter of course.

I would no more trust a party that would elect him, and Corbyn before him, and Milliband before him, to lead the country than I would trust Ted Bundy to escort a prom queen safely home.