Jewish Shop Owners Are Beaten Up

[fender62]

what section of society is doing all this anti-semitic attacks, is it that other ethnic group or just random, jews seem to keep themselves to themselves, never hear of them abusing or attacking anyone, so whats the jist here erm palestine or a long hatred going back a thousand yrs or more?
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[naomi24]

//One sees the name "Malaki" and one thinks: surely that is a Jewish name. //

The spelling is Islamic.

[Peter Pedant]

Far right - nothing new there

but woy is wight - the brits ignore bad relations
and in Oz it has always been peaceful and light

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_violence_in_Australia#Kalgoorlie_Mines_race_riots

I wanted to get the photo of Australians beating up Croatian immigrants labelled - "and in Oz they throw an impromptu barbie for new-comers"

[Peter Pedant]

and means of a king
malaki I mean - - ch is a different letter - word-root m-l-k also gives words for ownership and property (*)

Malachi is merely a transliteration of a Hebrew word meaning “my messenger.” - arabic would be almost certainly rasooli

(*)kingdom is mam-larka - queen malika
Queen Elizabeth is malikat eliz-a-vayt - hey look at that ta-marbuta!

[naomi24]

Keep googling, PP. You haven't gone far enough.

[Peter Pedant]

I think in response I can state that we have had very good Jewish doctors who just got on with the job.

One on his hilly hols went to the Sudan and set up the childrens dialysis service in Khartoum - and said yes I told everyone I was a Jew. (I thought Christ)
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Another on charity duty got Chukungunya Fever - lost a kidney ( it was never found) and was one of the 20% who get the post-C debilitating arthritis ( and had to retire)

[Peter Pedant]

foo naomi - good one liners today ! classic

[ichkeria]

I "understand" anti-semitism in the sense that I think know what the motives might be.
But only in the strictest possible sense.
People were suspicious of them as "outsiders" and were often jealous of their wealth. That persists to this day: George Soros is a a target of a minority of far right polemicists.

It's fascinating that Dickens was stung by criticism of his protrayal of Fagin in Oliver Twist, and then appeared to make amends years later by creating the character Mr Riah in Our Mutual Friend.

To say nothing of attacks for purely political (ofen anti-Zionist) or religious (often Islamic) reasons.

[naomi24]

Orthodox Jews do keep themselves to themselves, sqad. That's normal.

[Sqad]

They do naomi, but in my experience there are varying degrees of "isolation"........but I agree.

Ich....interesting post, but it makes me more confused as to why there seems to be an increase in anti Semitism despite living in a more "enlightened " world.

[ichkeria]

In fairness it probably isn't quite as bad as in the past when you think of the Holocaust, the Russian pogroms etc.
Jews are just one example of a minority group people like to pick on when life isn't treating them well.

[youngmafbog]

//Far right - nothing new there//

Explain COB and his mates then. Last time I looked they were far left.

[Khandro]

It is an Islamic name. He will be a Muslim, uneducated, stupid, & definitely will not vote Tory.

[dave50]

I have never understood anti semetism, where it stems from and why. It seems to have been going on since time immemorial. I don't know any Jews, well not that I know of, so it's a mystery to me.

[naomi24]

The Palestinian issue aside - the Jews have always been different insofar as, since the 'Jewish' bloodline is of supreme importance - to the extent that children born to a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother are not considered Jewish - they are unique as a 'race'. They are self-sufficient, generally hard-working, very family orientated, they don't cause trouble and they retain their all-important traditions 'religiously', but whilst they interact with outsiders in business they do not seek converts to their religion or friends from cultures other than their own - and all of that creates unfounded suspicion. From the point of view of social acceptance one of the most hostile places I have ever been to is Israel. In areas there I could well be invisible.

[barry1010]

When my friend was a student in London over 40 years ago she made very good money doing household chores on the Jewish sabbath for those families that took 'on the 7th day thou shalt rest' very literally - too the point of carrying their books, bags and umbrellas to the synagogue and back. Even turning on the lightbulbs and opening the curtains first thing in the mornings.
Of course this was long before cookers came with sabbath settings and lights/curtains could be automated.
There was no eruv in London back then and I was fascinated to learn about those wires that create a 'Jewish boundary' so that Jews can carry their own books, keys and essentials to synagogue on Saturdays.

I can't understand this anti-semitism that is still rife in many countries just as I couldn't understand the 'P*** bashing' that I witnessed in the 70s.

[Peter Pedant]

there is a word for a goy employed to do household chores in an observant household....

and there is an eruv in Palmers Green now. - break or a break said to be in it caused chaos a few years ago

[barry1010]

PP, you may be surprised to learn that there is a word for everything.

My friend earned far more than she would have done working in a shop or bar and also received lots of gifts. It was a win/win regardless of anything they may have called her behind her back

[Khandro]

Shtisel on Netflix is very good - & you don't have to be Jewish :0)

[THECORBYLOON]

"children born to a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother are not considered Jewish"

That is not the case across the board.

"West London Synagogue was at the forefront of the 2016 change by the Assembly of Reform Rabbis UK to recognise those with one Jewish parent as having inherited Jewish status, irrespective of the gender of that parent."