Can Anyone Explain Why

[Stargazer]

it is bad news that Russia has accepted Donetsk and Luhansk.

[jno]

because they are part of Ukraine. Russia is encouraging them to rebel and secede. Imagine if Putin encouraged Scottish independence.

[bobbinwales]

Not sure what you mean. Their going in with arms and soldiers on the pretext of 'peacekeeping'

[Zacs-Master]

And if they secede, the tanks will move into what is (or was) Ukraine.

[Zacs-Master]

Been to Charm School again I see, Tora.

[ichkeria]

These places were created by Russia to destabilise Ukraine and violate its territory.
What’s bad about it is: firstly that it gives Putin an excuse as he sees it to send in troops openly whereas previously he did it surreptitiously.
But more seriously, it’s another step in his plan. One thing leading to another

[youngmafbog]

Are you related to jno Gromit because both of you seem to have very similar anti British rants all the time?

You could go and live in a country that is better if we are so bad, have you considered that?

[ichkeria]

gromit your posts I've noticed are either absolutely spot on or a load of old baloney
Sadly the last one was one of the latter :-)

[Togo]

//150 years ago the UK flooded Ireland with Protestant Scots and eventually the whole of the Northern counties had a pro-protestant/pro Uk populations.//

More lies and misinformation on a "truth" ensured site.

There was, in 1606, an independent Scottish settlement in east Down and Antrim. It was led by adventurers James Hamilton and Sir Hugh Montgomery, two Ayrshire lairds. There was another major influx of Scots into northern Ireland which occurred in the late 1690s, when tens of thousands of people fled a famine in Scotland to migrate to Ulster. Perhaps the UK that Gromit misleadingly references is the Ulster Plantation, a colonisation plan devised by James VI of Scotland. The Uk was founded in 1707 James VI of Scotland and I of England died in 1625. You need to be British though to understand this stuff.

[sevenOP]

unjust 'because'

https://i0.wp.com/www.e-ir.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/map-1.jpg

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/pqwXThWD0i4Sh2fPNYDogOQaRc4=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3702464/native-american-land__.0.0.gif

[ichkeria]

Pathetic

[Gromit]

ichkeria,
That is probably because I post some posts you agree with, and some posts you don’t.
The Northern Ireland and Ukraine analogy fits perfectly.
The outside dominant power floods the neighbouring country with citizens pro to the motherland, and when they get worried goes into those regions to protect the newly installed population to the detriment of those who have lived there for centuries.

[ichkeria]

Except that you’re several hundred years out with the plantation and Russia to be fair did not “plant” Russians in Ukraine particularly.
There is no comparison whatever between the two situations

[DTCwordfan]

so the logic here says to me is to export the Irish renegades, whoever or whatever religion, to Donetsk or Luhansk - and, my, Vlad wouldn't even know what trouble is coming his Kremlin way.

[Gromit]

ichkeria,
I do not know or have historic records, but do not the vast majority of people living in the newly recognised Donbass regions in Ukraine, speak, live and have allegiance to Russia ?

[DTCwordfan]

so, on that basis, Londonderry goes back to Dublin, gromit?

[tomus42]

Because we've seen it before as a way to invade a whole country.
Go in to 'defend' the separatists that are on your side in a limited area.

Putin would like to see the USSR restored to exactly how it was in the good old days. God knows why.

[ichkeria]

A lot of Russian labour came in to work in the mines in Donbas but that’s not a “plantation” as such.
I’m sure by the way you know that Donetsk was founded by a Welsh mine owner and was known as Hughesovka.

[ichkeria]

Georgia fits that profile better.
Stalin (a Georgian himself of course), made sure there were large ethnic minorities - at enmity with the Georgians - incorporated within the Georgian SSR. And that has since been to Putin’s benefit.
And he did the same in other autonomous Soviet republics.