81 Executed In One Day, But Boris Still Wants To Trade With Them.

[Canary42]

So much for the moral high ground.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/saudi-arabia-boris-johnson-visit-161200464.html

[dannyk13]

Ich, I agree with you there.

[ichkeria]

We are telling Russia to get out of Ukraine of course, but I don't see what the relevance of that is.
These irritating moral equivalences make me cross.

[Togo]

I see the specialist in specious argument for its own sake is at it again. Deal with Venezuela? The Kremlins agent in Latin America and subject to grown up scrutiny every where but in the echo chamber.

""The Nicolas Maduro government’s brutal repression continues, with security forces and armed pro-government groups committing egregious abuses, including extrajudicial killings, short-term enforced disappearances, arbitrary arrests, and torture. The United Nations Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on Venezuela and the Office of the Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court found evidence that crimes against humanity may have been committed. Authorities are harassing and prosecuting civil society organizations that work to address the country’s ongoing human rights and humanitarian emergency, which has left millions unable to access basic healthcare and adequate nutrition and the country ill-prepared to deal with the Covid-19 pandemic. More than 5.6 million Venezuelans have fled the country, generating the largest migration crisis in Latin America.""
Human Rights Watch.

In January 2021 the United Nations Human Rights Council made these observations.
.Immediately and unconditionally release all political prisoners and end arbitrary arrests and abuse of dissidents.
.Reform the Bolivarian National Police, including dissolving the special police force Special Actions Force of Venezuela (Fuerza de Acciones Especiales, FAES).
.Overhaul the judiciary to reinstate judicial independence.
.End censorship and abandon its systematic campaign against independent journalists, human rights defenders, and civil society organizations.
.Allow the full deployment of all humanitarian organizations.
Ensure conditions for free and fair elections with independent international oversight.
.Promptly and thoroughly investigate all allegations of human rights violations since 2014, looking into criminal responsibility of those who committed the abuses and of high-level officials who knew or should have known they were occurring.

[Gromit]

Togo,
What does Human Rights Watch say about Saudi Arabia ?

[ynnafymmi]

Looks like quite a lot of them were terrorist scum.More power to SA is all i can say.

[Mozz71]

Gromit: //I suggest we buy our oil from Venezuela and Iran//

Iran have by far the largest* amount of executions since 2020 (240+).

*known amount. China, N. Korea etc keep schtum about their numbers, although Amnesty believe the Chinese figures may well be in the thousands.

[ToraToraTora]

"Your post shows that you know if not fully understand the seriousness of the charge, Tora, so maybe there's a small hope that you'll moderate your expressions and keep things in the realms of reality. " - dream on sunshine, I will never go easy on treacherous scum.

[THECORBYLOON]

I trust you're not calling anyone on here, "treacherous scum".

[Mozz71]

//dream on sunshine, I will never go easy on treacherous scum.//

And who exactly is "treacherous scum"? Anyone who disagrees with you? If yours is the moral compass we should all be judged by, the society as a whole is screwed.

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "And who exactly is "treacherous scum"? Anyone who disagrees with you? " - as I've sad a 1000 times, disagree with me, offer an argument not pure hatred based on nothing. Canary and others are pure anti British if you can't see that then look a bit closer to home.

[Mozz71]

As I've often said, your definition of "anti-British" is someone who doesn't share your lofty levels of xenophobia. Some of the crap you write is enough to make most people long for the EU.

[douglas9401]

"Some of the crap you write is enough to make most people long for the EU. "

Or a passing constable.

[Atheist]

I do find ToraToraTora's posts mainly assertions without any follow-up logic or data to support his views. I also wonder whether or not his clever trick of disrespecting people's avatar names by 'batch misnomer' is in the spirit of Site Rules. He regularly misnames me and many others as 5C. I'll stop there, as he has said he wouldn't engage with me any more after I called him a bully, and it wouldn't be fair to goad him.

[Togo]

//He regularly misnames me and many others as 5C. //

Do you have any examples(even one would do) of TTT calling you 5C? Or are you just donning a cap that fits and then blaming him because it makes you look even dafter?

[Atheist]

Togo; ToraToraTora (phew, that was a mouthful!) calls anyone who criticises the UK government a hater of England and therefore a traitor (that's what 5C means). I believe that the freedom to criticise your own government is a right and a duty. Do you believe in the 'infallibility of the Tory government'?

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "The war in Yemen is not the same as the one in Ukraine.
One is a civil war, the other is the unprovoked invasion of a peaceful country by another, and what's more it's pretty much on our doorstep. " - yes but the 5C brigade can't see that ich.