Don't Mention The War

[Khandro]

'One of Moscow's most senior military commanders was arrested on Thursday after Vladimir Putin promised to "purify" Russia of traitors in a sign of "real discord" in the Kremlin over the war, according to a British minister.

It came as US intelligence said at least 7,000 Russian troops have been killed in Ukraine, including three generals, with up to 21,000 soldiers injured.

That "conservative" estimate is greater than the number of American troops killed over 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

The losses appear to be leading to a purge of Putin's top military and intelligence commanders, including General Roman Gavrilov, the deputy head of Russia's National Guard, on Thursday.

Increasingly isolated and angry, the Russian president this week used a TV appearance to lash out at "traitors".'

The going seems to getting a bit rough for Tsar Vlad.

[davebro]

Putin HAS WMD & NATO has never attacked Russia & is unlikely ever to do so if unprovoked.

[davebro]

What The Funicular has Kyiv distance from Moscow got to do with anything? Missiles can travel thousands of miles - we could bomb Moscow from Britain if we wanted to.

[davebro]

maybe we should - let Putin know what it feels like!

[Gromit]

davebro
You asserted that the civilian death toll that I posted was ‘cobblers’, yet you have made no effect to correct it. I invited you to post what you think is the actual figure, and still not a peep from you.

[Gromit]

davebro
Russia can bomb Ukraine from Russia. But Shock & Awe doesn’t work. That is why it has invaded. Russia doesn’t want that back fro NATO on its Ukraine border.

[davebro]

Dummy - you didn't say CIVILIAN death toll. You simply asserted that less than 1000 had died. Which is cobblers.

[davebro]

Gromit
//Talk of genocide is silly. Ukraine has a population of 41 million and less than 1,000 have died so far.//

You didn't say just CIVILIANS - so the 1000 was wrong.

You are wrong but just too stubborn to admit it - I would have more respect if you did.

[ichkeria]

Genocide doesn’t have to mean killing every last person.

Gromit you appear to have lost the plot

[Gromit]

davebro,
My post at 15:10
// Avatar Image Gromit
The latest verifiable figures I can find…

// The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) verified a total of 780 civilian deaths during Russia's military attack on Ukraine as of March 16, 2022. Of them, 58 were children. //

[Gromit]

Ick
My dictionary says this...
// genocide
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. //

Putin has killed a few hundred, not a few million. He is not attempting genocide.

[davebro]

//Putin has killed a few hundred, not a few million. He is not attempting genocide.//

He has killed 1000s on BOTH sides, probably more than 10,000 to date & destroyed people's homes thus driving them out (3 million?). So if it's not genocide it's certainly ethic cleansing.

[Khandro]

'More than 2,500 Russian bodies ‘sent to Belarus in dead of night’ as Kremlin hides true death toll
Doctors tell of 'terribly disfigured' soldiers and overflowing morgues as Moscow tries to conceal the human cost of its war in Ukraine'

Daily Telegraph today

[davebro]

Mariupol -

// City officials estimate that at least 2,500 people have died in the three-week war, although they admit this is an underestimate as they are unable to count who is being killed.

Some of the dead are being left in the streets, as it is too risky to get to them. When they are finally collected, many end up buried in mass graves - another symbol of the horror there.//

[Khandro]

“There are a lot of deaths. Limbs are being cut off and there are a lot of shrapnel wounds,” a human rights worker in Mazyr told The Telegraph last week. “All these are mostly very young guys born in 1998-2002.”

The sheer number of patients has reportedly triggered a shortage of surgeons, with locals being discharged to make space. There are also fears that there may soon be a shortage of everyday medications for the general population."

[ichkeria]

Perhaps Gromit you should put your dictionary away and acknowledge the facts

[dannyk13]

Latest reports are that Putin has directed attacks on mainly suburban areas.

[ichkeria]

Also reports that thousand have been bussed from Mariupol to "remote locations in Russia".

Thousands dead, including more Ukrainian civilians than military, and over 100 children, not to mention the thousands of dead Russian soldiers. Destroyed infrastructure, cities pounded and in at least one case (Volnovakha) more or less obliterated, 3 million plus refugees abroad and tens of thousands internally displaced.
And all because Russia doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO??
Absolute nonsense. It's the destruction of a whole people at any cost.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit, you keep going on about the proximity of NATO but Russia already Borders NATO and the distance is irrelevant anyway, the west could flatten all the Russian cities from the ICBM silos and/or the subs.

[Peter Pedant]

Mornin Ich
Putin's russkyy myr has angered the Orthodox church around 100 have labelled him a heretic

russky myr -russin world illuminated orthodox doctrine ( according to mad theologian P ) and the turbulent priests have protest
uh-uh - other way round - religion illuminates and instructs politics and that CERTSINLY doesnt cover Ukraine

[Khandro]

//And all because Russia doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO//

That should be Putin not Russia, & as Boris has said, there can never be a 'Putin-reset'; whatever happens, (& I hope regicide) Putin is finished, both domestically & on the World stage.

He wanted to be an historic figure, & boy will he be, but not in the manner he desired.