No Further Fines ......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61201166
... so we've spent a fortnight in hysterics for a 9 minute 6 person gathering on the PM's Birthday, that by the law at the time was probably legal. Still good job there's nothing really important going on in the world....hang on!

[Peter Pedant]

// that by the law at the time was probably legal.//
when does stupidity become lying?
that by the law at the time was probably unlawful.

or else secure in the knowledge they have moolah, they would have fought it, considering accepting the fine wd cause such repurational damage

and as someone said, you dont usually say yes I did it
er when you didnt
moral or sumfing

[THECORBYLOON]

"by the law at the time was probably legal." That is only your opinion which the Met Police and at least three of those fined do not agree with.

The investigations are continuing and the Met will issue further FPNs where appropriate.

[gingejbee]

Making the same point ad nauseam doesn't make it any more relevant. (If Johnson had murdered somebody, TTT would still find a reason to find it acceptable).

[ToraToraTora]

he had a gathering with people he works with anyway. Now I don't know the specific wording of the law but that was allowed at the time. I would like to see plod's reasoning.

[THECORBYLOON]

"a 9 minute 6 person gathering on the PM's Birthday, that by the law at the time was probably legal"

"Now I don't know the specific wording of the law but that was allowed at the time."

You don't even know what the law was yet you've decided it was probably legal?

Really?

[naomi24]

Why don't you post 'the rules', Corby? You know you want to.

[douglas9401]

I've only noticed one hysterical person on threads covering this, easy to spot him by the map of China on the front of his trousers from PHSL.

[Gromit]

He has been fined, so no it wasn’t probably legal it was certainly illegal.
He has not contested the judgement, which he surely would if he genuinely thought a miscarriage of justice had occurred.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "He has been fined, so no it wasn’t probably legal it was certainly illegal." - not been tested in a court, plod is not judge and jury, are you seriously saying that people are guilty because plod says so?
"He has not contested the judgement, which he surely would if he genuinely thought a miscarriage of justice had occurred. " - because it is sometimes better to avoid all the agro of going to court and pay a small fine, discussed here: https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Question1793167.html

[naomi24]

He’s not contested it because he has better things to do. After all this nonsense the fuss that would create would be unthinkable.

[webbo3]

Kier Starmer squirms.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1550807/Keir-Starmer-BBC-Labour-Party-leader-Sophie-Raworth-party-gate-Boris-Johnson-latest-vn

[perseverer]

The Express having a go at Kier Starmer? Well, it makes a change from them going at Nicola Sturgeon.

[bednobs]

Hang on .... why are you posting about this? My impression was you wanted everyone to stop going o about it cause there's more important things going on? Yet here you are weeks later STILL going on about it.

[ToraToraTora]

if the PM is guilty then Rodders is too but frankly this whole business is ridiculous. There are much more important issues to deal with.

[Redhelen72]

Gatherings were permitted for up to six people outdoors, but they were not permitted indoors. It was not until more than two weeks later, on 4 July, that indoor gatherings between two households were permitted.

[sandra4444]

So (we've) spent a fortnight in hysterics? (You) certainly have TTT, and you are still at it.

Just out of interest do you have any other hobbies,

[Gromit]

I don’t buy the too busy to prove his innocence argument. He would just get his lawyer to do the work, with minimal agro for himself.

There have been more than fifty fines. If they were ‘probably legal’ surely one of those would have contested it? If the Met are wrong 50 times, that would set alarm bells ringing. They have all accepted the fines because they all know they were guilty.

[webbo3]

perseverer
\\The Express having a go at Kier Starmer? Well, it makes a change from them going at Nicola Sturgeon.//

Its the BBC.

[naomi24]

Redhelen, these people were working together.

Agree with TTT. Starmer shouldn’t be criticised either - but he shouldn’t have played holier than thou. The whole thing is an utter nonsense.

Boris is wise to avoid going down that road. It would cause more trouble than it’s worth.