Have We Urged Ukraine To Attack Russia?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1601683/Ukraine-war-live-Vladimir-Putin-UK-threat-kremlin-Volodymyr-Zelensky-NATO-latest
First I've heard of it. If he attacks UK the game will really be up for mad Vlad.

[Ken4155]

Not exactly targetting the UK, TTT, but 'British sites in Kyiv. Laughable that Raab describes the threat as 'unlawful'. Almost everything Putin has done thus far is 'unlawful'!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/russian-threat-of-proportional-response-against-britain-is-unlawful-raab/ar-AAWDSte

[ichkeria]

Even by the standards of the Express that is a woeful piece of headlining.
And the Times today is little better.
I agree with Ken, and in fact by the depths to which the Russians have sunk to far in this war, actually targetting diplomats, bad as it is, would be pretty much an act of high virtue.
I suspect it is more bluster though. They have't done a very good job of targetting Zelensky for example.

[ichkeria]

Of course Russian TV shows have featured calls for the UK to be nuked for some time.

[gulliver1]

Yes TTT We shall fight them on the Beaches , landing grounds,fields,in the streets in the hills we will never surrender.

[youngmafbog]

Obviously your not French then Gully!

Sounds to me like more bluster for the benefit of the folks back home.

Attacking diplomats (of any nation) deliberately would undoubtedly render the offending State a pariah for decades. It simply is not an option.

[ichkeria]

On the subject of attacking Russia there have been a series of large fires in places near the border with Ukraine. And the Russians have been pretty quiet about it.

Interestingly, a Chinese compnay that makes drones is pulling out of Russia. DJI Technology Co is the first Chinese form to cite the war in ceasing operations with Russia. In fact these drones were being used by Ukraine, until the Ukrainians found the Russians had access to their tracking system.

[ichkeria]

"Attacking diplomats (of any nation) deliberately would undoubtedly render the offending State a pariah for decades. It simply is not an option."

Some would argue that 400 confirmed cases of the rape of women and children has put Russia in that position already. Along with all the other things ...

[youngmafbog]

Interesting one that.

It's all beginning to unravel isnt it. The idea that you use another countries weapons when that country is hardly reliable (e.g. China/Russia) is ridiculous as is depending on them for manufacture of most of your items and the supply of energy.

There are some serious lessons to be learnt here. But will we? Johnson made some noises about getting our Oil fields going again but action seems to be missing. Obviously the Prime Minister has Johnsons nuts in her hand and is squeezing tight.

[youngmafbog]

//Some would argue that 400 confirmed cases of the rape of women and children has put Russia in that position already. Along with all the other things ...//

Couldn't agree more. However, disgusting as it may be, that is likely to 'blow over' in the midst of time.

Killing diplomats is another story though as it destroys the trust of all World leaders.

[Ken4155]

YMF @ 10;58, last sentence. I'm doing a TTT here, PMSL :-)))))

[Ellipsis]

No doubt they are not really diplomats in Vlad's world.

[jno]

it says "provoke", not "urge". From Putin's point of view supplying arms to Ukraine is "provoking", but there's no "urging" about it.

[CrapAtCryptics]

I dont see how Putin can say Ukraine shouldnt fire back. When you invade them people tend to fire back and there are quite a number of legitimate targets withing Ukraines range including the oil depot that was being used as a staging post for the Russian invasion so definitely a legitimate target.

[Peter Pedant]

The game will be up for us as well
roasted or charred TTT id you get my meaning

[Peter Pedant]

crap at C - because Putin regards Ukraine as part of Russia
he is the legit govt of russia
and ukraine has dangerous secessionist tendencies
ergo...

[Gromit]

Badly written by the Express.
British targets may be bombed, not Britain. Meaning British diplomats going back to Kyiv are putting themselves in harms way.

[ichkeria]

They'll be fine

[sandra4444]

I've said before, the UK and other countries need to stop gobbing off about when and what they are supplying. Just do it and stop the silly war of words competition.

[Peter Pedant]

erm sorry diplomats ( envoys ambassadees etc) have had protected status since around 300 BC

Athenian war ends 405BC they used to torture the messengers