Why Do These People Play The Race Card All The Time?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61455683
Colour is irrelevant when restraining drug addled, knife wielding criminals resisting arrest. What's plod supposed to do?

[naomi24]

He doesn’t appear to have been carted off to the police station but to hospital where, having taken drugs, he died. If she’s complaining that he was restrained because he was black she shouldn’t be. He wasn’t. He was restrained because he was a knife wielding threat to society.

[webbo3]

\\Police were called out in the early hours of 3 May 2015 after Sheku Bayoh was seen behaving erratically with a knife in a Kirkcaldy street. He had earlier taken drugs which friends said altered his behaviour.

According to police statements, when officers arrived he no longer had the knife, but failed to obey instructions to get down on the ground.

The officers used force on Mr Bayoh, including CS Spray and batons. He then punched PC Nicole Short, who fell to the ground.//

\\Mr Bayoh was restrained for five minutes before falling unconscious. He was pronounced dead in hospital a short time later.//

Note the BBC have left out the cause of death.

[Atheist]

The OPer plays the race card very often. It's one of his favourite topics. Why this obsession?

[perseverer]

Also from the link provided
Two officers, PC Craig Walker and PC Ashley Tomlinson, later told investigators that Mr Bayoh carried out a violent stamping attack on PC Short. However, evidence obtained by the BBC's Panorama programme suggested these accounts may have been false.

Like the original poster, I wasn't there, I don't know precisely what happened, so I can't pontificate, but there does seem to be justification for the enquiry and the need to examine whether racism was a factor.

[pixie374]

It's because it's endemic. We all know that, racism isn't just shouting racist words in public, or refusing to employ people who aren't white. It often affects how people are treated in more subtle ways.
Impossible to tell whether she is right or wrong from the link alone, but 'they' don't, 'all the time'. You are determined not to help yourself, sometimes...

[THECORBYLOON]

Who are, "these people"?

[youngmafbog]

People like you?

[davebro]

I suppose they would feel safer if they emigrated to Rwanda.

[THECORBYLOON]

"People like you?" No idea since he hasn't replied.

[jno]

quite so, pixie. E-scooters are barely legal anyway but in London black people are three times more likely to be stopped for e-scooter offences than white people, and only half as likely to have no further action taken.

You don't have to be drug-addled and knife-wielding, you just have to be black, that's what the cops notice.

https://www.wearepossible.org/latest-news/black-londoners-are-being-unfairly-penalised-for-using-sustainable-transport

[sp1814]

Colour may well be irrelevant when restraining a drug addled, knife wielding criminal but we don't know whether he *was* drug addled.

This is what the inquiry will reveal.

Also, according to reports in your link he was no longer carrying the knife which may not be relevant - just because someone has thrown a weapon away doesn't mean they don't have some other tool in their possession.

However, one of the points that the enquiry needs to address is how and why Mr Bayoh. Is having six officers lying on top of a someone agreed procedure? Why did he have 26 separate injuries on him?

It's not right to dismiss race as a factor when the report into the incident runs to 50,000 pages.

[sp1814]

"He doesn’t appear to have been carted off to the police station but to hospital where, having taken drugs, he died."

That's incorrect.

He was in *police custody*.

He was taken to the hospital under police custody because he became unconscious at the scene of the arrest. No-one said he was in a police station.


it has not yet been established whether a) he was actually on drugs and b) if the drugs he was on was a contributory factor in his death.

It could easily have been the six police officers who may have applied a restraining technique incorrectly. It may have been as a result of one of his injuries - this is something that would need to be addressed by the inquiry.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // Why Do These People Play The Race Card All The Time? //

Kadi Johnson, the gentleman's sister, is not 'playing the race card' as you put it.

She was answering a question about whether she feels that Scotland is a racist country, and her answer is -

"For me I will say yes, I'm afraid I'll say yes because the way we have been treated."

Now that is an observation from someone who understands the sharo end or racism a sight better than you or I - because she is black, and her experience of racism is probably a lot more front-and-centre than you or I would ever experience in any foreign country.

If you want the answer to your question TTT, shabbily worded as it is - try reading your own link, the answers you need are all there.

[pixie374]

The answers, are actually in his own title.

[naomi24]

SP, it’s not incorrect. He doesn’t appear to have been carted off to the police station, he had taken drugs, and he was taken to hospital.

[ToraToraTora]

his colour was irrelevant, he was on drugs, they thought he had a knife, he resisted arrest. If it was a white bloke no one would be claiming racism would they?

[pixie374]

Probably not- with the massive presumption that everything would have happened in exactly the same way. That's what we don't know yet.

[andy-hughes]

Is that a serious question TTT?

White people in a predominantly white country don't find the need to 'shout racism'.

If you don't understand why not, you may need to step away from the thread.

[THECORBYLOON]

"If it was a white bloke no one would be claiming racism would they?"

Would folk not be demanding to know how and why he died?

[perseverer]

TTT, did you actually read the link you posted.

"According to police statements, when officers arrived he no longer had the knife, but failed to obey instructions to get down on the ground."