Babies Taken From Their Mothers In The 50S.

[hellywelly4]

Apparently the government are being asked to apologise for taking babies away from their unwed mothers in the 1950s. As I remember it, it was more a family thing and the girls’ parents wouldn’t let them keep the babies - nothing at all to do with the government. It was such a disgrace for the family. It was an awful time. Is my memory correct?

[Sqad]

It is correct helly, nothing to do with the Government, it was the shame of having a baby whilst unmarried and the children of such were known as ***.

All ado about nothing, providing the *** were given a good home, care and love, it didn't make a jot of difference.

The problem was that of the biological mother who couldn't forget the incident.

[Sqad]

the starred words were ...b.stards.

[Ellipsis]

> The problem was that of the biological mother who couldn't forget the incident

Yep, not surprising really. How traumatic?! Seems unbelievable these days ...

I suppose the state's role was creating and continuing the society and culture that normalised this sort of thing.

[pastafreak]

As usual...it was the mother's/woman's fault.

[Peter Pedant]

I think there is lou-lou involved
if they apologise, then money follows

I remember cases where the girl was at uni and the grandparents couldn't cope - and so the child was adopted

facilitated by such as my father the local GP. His cousin died in childbirth (1934) and the grandparents took on the child. He shrugged his shoulders and knew these grandparents wouldnt, fifty y later.

[lewisk]

How dare the biological mother have a problem with forgetting the ‘incident’. Maybe they should have given them all lobotomies so all the ‘ado about nothing’ could be swept under the carpet.

[Peter Pedant]

I remember one couple, the grandmother said over the lickle baby, this is nt my husband he is my son in law!

( mother cdnt cope so HER muvva stepped in)

[maggiebee]

Watched the film Philomena starring Judi Dench. Think the church has a lot to answer for too. They made a lot of money selling babies.

[Peter Pedant]

One of my school frenz. Daughter walked in wivva moses basket and said this is your grandchild, the father has repudiated her.

she stayed. She didnt say - you bring her up! and waltz out for another

[Peter Pedant]

I think the whole of AB should be made to watch long lost family for 6 six hours

one said to the long lost half sib - mum liked having babies but didnt like bringing them up. No one knows why she kept me ( out of the seven)

[Boto]

Why should the government apologise? Even if a government was partly at fault it wasn’t this government. Times change. Move on.

[gness]

Of course the problem is the biological mother. How dare she be affected by the reaction of her family and others who should have helped her.
The abuse she went through in the mother and baby home. The hours or days of being in labour. Deliberately mentally and physically hurt and denied any pain relief to punish her. The name calling. The adoption agencies and nuns hovering to take her baby to sell. Never holding or saying goodbye to that baby.
What was wrong with these young girls that they couldn't just up and walk away forgetting everything?
Why should some still be dwelling on what happened to that baby?

[Peter Pedant]

the view used to be
that was then and this is now
however with the vogue about apologising for colonising
or apologising for accepting a donation from a slave trader

[Peter Pedant]

why didnt they say
sad it, I am bringing up baby?

because you cant live on hot air - -

[Sqad]

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I think everyone would agree with your post......but......what has that got to do with the Government?

[gness]

If that's what the women want, Sqad then let them have the apology.

They were given nothing else to help them when they badly needed it.

[davebro]

er - where where the fathers in all this. Surely they should have "done the right thing" and married the lass.

[Sqad]

gness......there must be many b.astard children of the 50's and 60's who are glad that they were taken away at birth and adopted by loving parents. Clothed, fed, educated and have become useful members of society.

I have walked the streets of many UK cities and seen young women, smoking, tattooed, badly dressed pushing prams with dirty children drinking out of a tin of Pepsi and one knew that they had no future at all, other than a life of petty crime. Grandparents bringing up children in a situation where the biological mother was drinking, drugs and maybe having multiple sexual relationships and at worse being physically or sexually abused in the "home."
Perhaps if they had been taken away at birth and adopted, their future may have been brighter.

Are the days of the 60's and 70,s much worse than today for the children born out of wedlock, I don't think so ?
We should aplogise for the present, not the past.

[Sqad]

dave @12.40........they often did marry them, those that didn't had pressure put on them by the families for an abortion or to have nothing to do with the birth.

[gness]

Sqad. What you saw when walking the streets has nothing to do with what happened to so many young girls.
You only have to read of Ann Fox's experiences to know that an apology wouldn't go amiss.