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ichkeria | 13:01 Tue 19th Jul 2022 | News
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... of the seemingly interminable race to No 10 will be decided at 3pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62216697

If Rishi Sunak hits 120 votes he qualifies for the final immediately and therefore presumably retures temporarily from the fray (could happen to a secoond candidate but seemingly v unlikely
However, this would leave 120+ Rishi supporters free to vote for someone else?
Would it not?
What am I missing here?
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Thats an interesting observation Ich. Must admit I dont know the answer to that.
If Sunak auto qualifies in this next round by getting 120+ votes then do those who voted for have the opportunity to vote for one of the others in the final round? (As Sunak is already through)
That can't be right because that would give an unfair advantage to Sunak. Ie he could then direct all his votes to the candidate that he thinks he can beat in the final. I don't think so. As I understood it it goes round by round until their are 2 left. If more than one tie with the lowest they all go out.
So why are the MSM saying 120 and he is auto through?

I agree it cant be right, but ....
I shouldn't worry Sunak will be the next PM. Jolly Good I say.
> If Rishi Sunak hits 120 votes he qualifies for the final immediately

I don't think so ...

It's possible to lose votes between rounds, as has already been demonstrated.
If he gets 120 votes when three candidates are left, then he is guaranteed to be in the top two since no-one can get more than that.

MPs can change from one round to the next and as was the case yesterday, Mordaunt's vote dropped by one.

Even if Sunak got 120 to-day, his backers could also change their minds in the next ballot.
The '120 votes to auto-qualify for the run-off' ISN'T a rule under the electoral procedures. It's simply a statement of mathematics.

With 358 Conservative MPs, if one of the candidates gets 120 votes (which is fractionally more than a third of the electorate), it's mathematically impossible for two or more other candidates to exceed that number at the same time (since there are only 238 other votes to be allocated between them).

So while Rishi Sunak will know that he's into the final run-off if he gets 120 or more votes, the election procedure remains unchanged, which means that his name will remain on the ballot papers for the next round. So there won't be 120-odd 'spare' votes to be spread around, as suggested in Ichkeria's post.
"So while Rishi Sunak will know that he's into the final run-off if he gets 120 or more votes, the election procedure remains unchanged, which means that his name will remain on the ballot papers for the next round. So there won't be 120-odd 'spare' votes to be spread around, as suggested in Ichkeria's post. " - probably but not certainly, each round is different, if Sunak drops a bowlock somehow his votes could go somewhere else. There are 2 rounds left.
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It was mentioned in the TV coverage yesterday.
If it’s only a mathematical observation then it’s not correct though: as long as he’s on the ballot paper his vote can go down as well as up (like investments ;-) j
well it's correct mathematically but it does not mean he is already through to the final, he still has to get past each round. He probably will but it's not certain.
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I think the person who mentioned this must have been mistaken.

It doesn't really make sense - I think!
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And Penny Mordaunt has lost one of her backers it appears, assuming Tobias Ellwood would have supported her.
It only makes sense on the round that reduces three to the final two.

To be guaranteed to be in the final two, from three, you need 120 votes.

However, you may only get one vote and still be in the final two, with the other two getting 357 votes and 0 votes respectively.
yeah but she should do well off Tugendhat's
"To be guaranteed to be in the final two, from three, you need 120 votes. " - Yes when there are only 3 left but from here you cannot guarantee to be anywhere, it relies on your support staying.
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"It only makes sense on the round that reduces three to the final two.

To be guaranteed to be in the final two, from three, you need 120 votes. "

Surely you need only to not come last to get in the last two ...
I think I've been pretty consistent on that, TTT. Anyway, what do you make of your hero Boris turning your mate (and MP) Tobias into the independent MP for Bournemouth East ...
" what do you make of your hero Boris turning your mate (and MP) Tobias into the independent MP for Bournemouth East ... " - I am not his mate these days.

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