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wants sanctions against Iran (Sunday Times) because of a man's attack on Rushdie. What on earth is the point? What could it achieve? There are already sanctions against Iran. Utterly absurd.
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In 1998 the government of Iran announced that it did not support the killing of Rushdie. That being the case, what exactly would sanctions be designed to achieve?
06:47 Sun 14th Aug 2022
//In 1998 the government of Iran announced that it did not support the killing of Rushdie. That being the case, what exactly would sanctions be designed to achieve?//
Trump, the only recent leader with balls, tore up the agreement & introduced sanctions because he could see that Iran gaining nuclear weapons, was an unthinkable proposition because for them it wouldn't be a weapon of deterrence, but one for coercion (& use!).
He also knew that lying is considered acceptable by this regime if, in their warped word-outlook, it leads them to their, and 'Allah's' goal, - the destruction of Israel.
Trump, the only recent leader with balls, tore up the agreement & introduced sanctions because he could see that Iran gaining nuclear weapons, was an unthinkable proposition because for them it wouldn't be a weapon of deterrence, but one for coercion (& use!).
He also knew that lying is considered acceptable by this regime if, in their warped word-outlook, it leads them to their, and 'Allah's' goal, - the destruction of Israel.
// Hadi Matar was born in the US to Lebanese parents who emigrated from Yaroun, a border village in southern Lebanon //
So Sunak wants to punish Iran. Reminiscent of when 19 Saudis attacked USA and they retaliated by invading Iraq.
At at time when oil and gas are in short supply leading to our present cost of living crisis, we should be lifting sanctions, not imposing them.
The quality of the candidates in the Conservative leadership contest is very low, and this confirms Sunak of the weakest of a bad bunch.
So Sunak wants to punish Iran. Reminiscent of when 19 Saudis attacked USA and they retaliated by invading Iraq.
At at time when oil and gas are in short supply leading to our present cost of living crisis, we should be lifting sanctions, not imposing them.
The quality of the candidates in the Conservative leadership contest is very low, and this confirms Sunak of the weakest of a bad bunch.
Hindus are amenable to followers of other religions
many may well be, as many Muslims also are. But it's rash to omit the use of any word like "many"
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many may well be, as many Muslims also are. But it's rash to omit the use of any word like "many"
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All a bit daft in my book, not the assault though, and a timely reminder that Islam behaves like this to any criticism supposedly in the name of Mohammed or Allah but then a lot of it is to mask a lot of their ungodly behaviour.
I wish sunak would now retire from this phantom race so that Truss/the Tories can get on with tackling a number of burning issues. This one is a mere sprat in the fire. Three extra weeks in control really could help Truss start the needed turn-around.
I wish sunak would now retire from this phantom race so that Truss/the Tories can get on with tackling a number of burning issues. This one is a mere sprat in the fire. Three extra weeks in control really could help Truss start the needed turn-around.
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//Trump, the only recent leader with balls, tore up the agreement & introduced sanctions because he could see that Iran gaining nuclear weapons, was an unthinkable proposition because for them it wouldn't be a weapon of deterrence, but one for coercion (& use!).
He also knew that lying is considered acceptable by this regime//
Are we talking about Iran still or the Trump administration?
//Trump, the only recent leader with balls, tore up the agreement & introduced sanctions because he could see that Iran gaining nuclear weapons, was an unthinkable proposition because for them it wouldn't be a weapon of deterrence, but one for coercion (& use!).
He also knew that lying is considered acceptable by this regime//
Are we talking about Iran still or the Trump administration?
Gromit; //Khomeini made a proclamation he didn’t issue a fatwa,//
No, Khomeni himself issued the fatwa.
and 'people have been calling for his death for over three decades, ever since the publication of his 1988 novel The Satanic Verses. That novel led to a fatwa from the Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran and the Iranian government putting a bounty on the British author´s head. They were encouraged in this by Muslim leaders in Britain. The repercussions for Rushdie were swift.
Rushdie himself went into hiding, protected by the security services of the British state at the behest of Margaret Thatcher´s government. He stayed in hiding for many years, during which time there were numerous attempts on his life, including from an Iranian agent who blew himself up in London. The novel´s Japanese translator – Hitoshi Igarashi – was stabbed and killed. The Norwegian publisher of the novel was shot outside his home in Oslo.
Then, during the years of the last Labour government in Britain, a compromise of a kind appeared to have been reached. The Iranian government said they would no longer encourage attacks on Rushdie but nor would they impede them. Later they changed tack again saying that the fatwa remained in place. Various scholars said that it wouldn´t matter anyway, because the only person who could rescind the fatwa was the person who had issued it Kohmeni and he was dead.'
No, Khomeni himself issued the fatwa.
and 'people have been calling for his death for over three decades, ever since the publication of his 1988 novel The Satanic Verses. That novel led to a fatwa from the Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran and the Iranian government putting a bounty on the British author´s head. They were encouraged in this by Muslim leaders in Britain. The repercussions for Rushdie were swift.
Rushdie himself went into hiding, protected by the security services of the British state at the behest of Margaret Thatcher´s government. He stayed in hiding for many years, during which time there were numerous attempts on his life, including from an Iranian agent who blew himself up in London. The novel´s Japanese translator – Hitoshi Igarashi – was stabbed and killed. The Norwegian publisher of the novel was shot outside his home in Oslo.
Then, during the years of the last Labour government in Britain, a compromise of a kind appeared to have been reached. The Iranian government said they would no longer encourage attacks on Rushdie but nor would they impede them. Later they changed tack again saying that the fatwa remained in place. Various scholars said that it wouldn´t matter anyway, because the only person who could rescind the fatwa was the person who had issued it Kohmeni and he was dead.'
// Khomeini's most publicised fatwa was the proclamation condemning Salman Rushdie to death for his novel The Satanic Verses. Khomeini himself did not call this proclamation a fatwa, and some scholars have argued that it did not qualify as one, since in Islamic legal theory only a court can decide whether an accused is guilty. However, after the proclamation was presented as a fatwa in Western press, this characterization was widely accepted by both its critics and its supporters, and the Rushdie Affair is credited with bringing the institution of fatwa to world attention. Together with later militant fatwas, it has contributed to the popular misconception of the fatwa as a religious death warrant. //
Thanks JNO.
I wondered about this bit.
// it has contributed to the popular misconception of the fatwa as a religious death warrant.//
That makes it sound like it never was - but of course that isn't true.
The latest ....//Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei praises stabbing of Salman Rushdie and says fatwa against Satanic Verses author was 'fired like a bullet that won't rest until it hits its target'//
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I don't believe there can be any question of purpose. When Mr Rushdie recovers - which hopefully he will - I suspect he will need to keep his head down.
I wondered about this bit.
// it has contributed to the popular misconception of the fatwa as a religious death warrant.//
That makes it sound like it never was - but of course that isn't true.
The latest ....//Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei praises stabbing of Salman Rushdie and says fatwa against Satanic Verses author was 'fired like a bullet that won't rest until it hits its target'//
https:/
I don't believe there can be any question of purpose. When Mr Rushdie recovers - which hopefully he will - I suspect he will need to keep his head down.
jno: //Hindus are amenable to followers of other religions
many may well be, as many Muslims also are [really?] . But it's rash to omit the use of any word like "many"//
Don't take my word for it, go & spend time in countries which are largely Hindu - India, Nepal - & those which are Islamic (as I have done) & see what you find.
many may well be, as many Muslims also are [really?] . But it's rash to omit the use of any word like "many"//
Don't take my word for it, go & spend time in countries which are largely Hindu - India, Nepal - & those which are Islamic (as I have done) & see what you find.
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