Yet Another Innocent Victim

[Ken4155]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-girl-9-shot-dead-27811572

[Maydup]

Awful and shocking news today.

[Bobbisox1]

Sad, very sad

[youngmafbog]

Utter savage.

But until the Police become a Force again and the liberal Judges are removed this will keep happening.

IMHO this is murder, we should call it so or this piece of scum will get off with a couple of years for manslaughter.

[davebro]

yes - murder, whole life sentence (or bring back hanging you Westminster eejits!)

[youngmafbog]

The problem is a whole life sentence in this country is rarely whole life. Too many do-gooders, who live nowhere near the problems, are to happy to give them parole etc.

But of course the underlying issue is not removing people for the smaller sentences so they dont get to this.

Zero tolerance is the only way.

[davebro]

YMB - a whole life sentence means they never get out. A life sentence usually specifies a tariff of x years after which the offender may be released but be on licence for the remainder of their life.

Whole life sentences should be limited to the 6 or so weeks until they are hung IMV!

[tiggerblue10]

Poor girl. Another family left devasted.

I heard that the friends of the man running from the gunman were helping their friend but none of them went to help the little girl. What utter scum! I don't usually comfortable with the thought of capital punishment but my knee jerk reaction does.

[anneasquith]

America could educate us about prison sentences, their system is much fairer. Longer sentences , no softly softly approach .

[jno]

I dunno, anne, the Americans gave a man 25 years for stealing a slice of pizza. I find that a bit disproportionate. But maybe he might as well be hanged for a pepperoni as a margherita.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-03-me-38444-story.html

[davebro]

3 strikes and you're out. Persistent offender, could have been more serious next time.

[Gromit]

The US has a very large prison population, which is very expensive. Not sure it is a model we want to copy.

[youngmafbog]

With you all the way davebro on both the 3 strikes and the rope.

[youngmafbog]

//The US has a very large prison population, which is very expensive. Not sure it is a model we want to copy.//

I totally and utterly disagree with this liberal nonsense.

And I suspect many of the families of the victims would too.

For me it is exactly the system to copy, zero tolerance. It may cost more to start with but petty crime does shrink if that policy is followed. NYC was a prime example, also as an example of your liberal thinking is how NYC is today - a lawless hell hole.

[Gromit]

If it works, why is NYC a lawless hellhole?

[Gromit]

Next time the Chancellor has $182Billion spare we could give it a try.

https://eji.org/news/mass-incarceration-costs-182-billion-annually/

[Zacs-Master]

The US prison pop is approx 2.8% of their population, ours is 0.08%. The US, despite representing 4.7% of the world's population, houses 20% of the world's criminals. If we were to emulate the US we would have around 1.6 million people in prison. The current prison population is around 81,000 meaning we'd neede an extra 1.53 million extra places. At 2000 prisoners per jail that's another 763 jails we'd require.

Still want to go there?

[Gromit]

The US prison population is 2.2 million. Yet the US is more lawless than the UK, so it doesn’t even work.

[gulliver1]

What's happening in the UK ? Every day someone is knifed , Murdered, or Raped. Is it safe to go there for a holiday without wearing a bullet/stab proof jacket
Britain is fast becoming a Third World Country.

[Zacs-Master]

Best stay away then, Gulli.

[Paigntonian]

The predictable response: Bring back hanging. The vast majority of people who commit murder or manslaughter, usually with a partner (about 94 per cent) do so under the influence of drink, drugs and/or mental health problems. There has never been a single instance of any country in the world that has cut capital crime by re-imposing death sentences. Drunks, druggies, nutters don't give a monkey's about 'deterrence'. So if you you really want to understand the US, for example, I suggest you look at those states with a death penalty and those that do not. Perhaps, then, you will be able to understand that the death penalty has never been a 'deterrent'.