William & Kate Take New Titles

[FatticusInch]

https://news.sky.com/story/king-to-be-known-as-charles-iii-as-william-and-kate-become-duke-and-duchess-of-cornwall-12693176

Will William also become The Prince of Wales too?

[Peter Pedant]

Katherine,the Princess of Wales
is the fashion, title, name of a widow

Diana P o W was a made up title whose significance
that she would DDDDDIIIIIIIEEEEEE !
was never realised

Widow of a King is Dowager Queen or just Queen
But with the two Elizabeths, how ja tell them apart ?

so the Royal Protocol courtiers ( or bots as we wd say now) [ the plenipotentiary purveyors of princely protocol ( thx Leo Sachs)] stuck their pencils in their mouths and came up with the never-heard-of-before Queen Mother

Pointing out in princely pernicketiness - it was an irregular genitive - Queen's Mother and NOT Queen+Mother

there you are
someone asked yesterday I think

[jno]

TCL, you're right about Queen Consort of course, but this is the first time I've heard the actual phrase "King and Queen Consort" (on the BBC). Surely they were traditionally just called "king and queen", or am I just remembering fairy tales rather than true protocol?

[THECORBYLOON]

JNO, it just be the Palace is using the formal title of Queen Consort because the last monarch was the Queen.

Katherine will not (but no doubt will be known as) be "Princess Katherine/Kate" when William becomes Prince of Wales.

Baroness Marie-Christine von Reibnit is better known as Princess Michael because she married Prince Michael of Kent.

When William becomes Prince of Wales, his wife will be, "Princess of Wales", "Katherine, Princess of Wales" or "Princess William" but not, "Princess Katherine/Kate".

[douglas9401]

So much faff for a 'job' title.

[jno]

thanks, TCL.

I suspect in a year or two she'll just be "Queen Camilla" or "the queen" to everyone except Cupronickel Pursuivant at the Mint.

[THECORBYLOON]

JNO, the Queen's mother was Queen Consort but known as the Queen or Queen Elizabeth mind.

[jno]

technically she was but I don't think she was often called that. That was why when her husband died they had to rename her "QE the Queen Mother" - because she'd already been known as Queen Elizabeth and now there were two of them.

[Oleanda]

It is Catherine, not Katherine.

[naomi24]

//I suspect in a year or two she'll just be "Queen Camilla" //

I hope so. I can't think of another Queen Consort who was constantly referred to as Queen Consort. As far as I'm aware they've always been referred to simply as 'Queen'.

[Barsel]

I always thought that when Charles becomes King he would insist that Camilla becomes Queen.
If the King can now make Archie and Lillibet a Prince and Princess, I will be less than pleased.
They don't even live in this country.

[naomi24]

The Queen, a few months ago, declared that upon Charles's accession to the throne, Camilla would become Queen Consort. Wise lady. She left no room for controversy behind her in that respect.

[naomi24]

I'm not entirely sure, Barsel, but I think the grandchildren of the monarch automatically become princes and princesses - as. say, Beatrice and Eugenie are, so Archie and Lilibet will indeed be endowed with those titles.

[Barmaid]

Barsel, I think that the Sussex's children automatically become HRH Prince/Princess as the grandchildren of the monarch. I could be wrong on that, though.

[Barmaid]

Must type quicker than Naomi.

[jno]

they're already entitled to be Prince Arche and Princess Lilibet and HRHs, though it seems Charles could block this

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/08/harry-and-meghans-children-become-prince-archie-and-princess-lilibet

[THECORBYLOON]

I posted yesterday that unless the King decrees otherwise (by way of a letters patent) both are now a Prince or Princess.

[DTCwordfan]

the more MeMeghan blahs off and so too Prince Harry in his future so-called blockbuster, the more likely that KC will put the boot in as to their children's titles.