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gulliver1 | 19:20 Tue 20th Sep 2022 | News
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Since Truss started Driving the Bus. Labour is on 42% In the opinion polls. While Trust Truss and the Criminal Corrupt Con Crony Party is trailing behind at 31,4%. ....."Oh happy day."
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The only change is the elections a few days closer but still 2 years to go
Yawn
I’ve a feeling that she’s finished her chances already by not imposing the windfall tax, despite the EU doing so.
With what’s to come over the next 4 months it’s going to leave the electorate wondering why?
Uncapping bankers bonuses in austere times told you everything i.e. this is Continuity Johnson.
And the oldest trick in the book is to band about massive numbers like they did for energy,3k 4k 5k and even nearly 6k at one point then for flip flop to step in with a £2,500 cap making everyone feel lucky and greatful.
Pimplyteen are you aware that the pricecao is based on raw energy prices with only a 1-2 %max profit allowed. Banni g profit would save an average customer £50 a year... welcome but small beer.
The real profit is been made not by bg or edf etc but the shells and bP and of course Putin.

Fatticyus how much would your energy windfall tax 4aise and which company's would pay it. Can you convince me its worth it or is it again just peanuts really
Bobbinwales
//Fatticyus how much would your energy windfall tax 4aise and which company's would pay it. Can you convince me its worth it or is it again just peanuts really//

Is £170 billion over 2 years peanuts?
Those figures from The Treasury no less.




Or what about these?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-windfall-tax-energy-firms-b2166915.html?amp

Let me know if you need any more convincing.
Unless of course you’d prefer to follow the Truss plans and pick up the tab yourself over the next 10-12 years, along with all the other UK taxpayers?
Before you answer though, remember that Truss once worked for Shell and the biggest single contributor(£100,000) to her election campaign is the wife of the former BP Chief Executive, then wonder exactly whether Truss has your interests at heart or big business?
Pimplyteen, please expand on your post.
Where did you read about a 6K cap?
You think a 6K cap is preferable to a £2,500 cap?
I'd love to hear your well thought out views.
Have you ever paid a bill?
Am not convinced Fatticus. Perhaps your not able to explain where this £170 billion will come from. surely you study the treasury report and thought it looked suprisingly high. Do you really think a few companies are making so much profit they can easily afford £170 billion. Can you name the companies and approx excess profits. Have you even got a link to the treasury report?
bobbinwales,
If you’re still wondering, have a good read of this, particularly this bit:

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss-is-prepared-to-go-against-voters-views-on-taxation-but-her-plans-carry-huge-economic-and-political-risk-12702240

/Over two in three Britons believe there should be a windfall tax on energy companies. These are not
then divides so much along the political divides of left versus
right, it is more about public sentiment and voters' approach
to taxation and on this Ms Truss is clear she's prepared to be on
the wrong side of that popular divide./

Even her own backbenchers are dreading the chaos she is about to cause, that’s been made plain.
bobbinwales Do you argue for the sake of it in order to make yourself look silly?Have you watched the YouTube clip? The £170 billion will come from profits.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/31/simply-immoral-leaked-doc-shows-uk-energy-giants-make-ps170-billion-excess-profits

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20862627.uk-energy-companies-make-170bn-excess-profits-leaked-analysis-reveals/

all your doing is convnce me you have no idea whether the figure of £170 billion comes from fatticus... pie in the sky?
Here it is in plain English for you.

https://inews.co.uk/news/business/gas-electricity-generators-set-rake-in-reported-170-billion-excess-profits-1823968

/UK gas producers and electricity generators are forecast to make up to £170 billion in excess profits over the next two years, according to estimates from the Treasury.

The new estimates have reignited demands for a windfall tax to fund extra help for households who are grappling with the cost of living crisis and sky-high energy bills./

Fingers crossed you grasp it.

I argue cos your cherrypicking sites that suit you but not giving specifics ....can you name the companies and give an example of there many billions of profits and show they we can grab them as well as all the european countries grabbing there share. Yes theres excess profits but £170 billion? Nah
Nope... youve just quoted/part quoted possibleupto figures. Youve no idea of whether the figures are pie in the sky or not. You seem unable to explain them other than say 'someone says its right'
bobbinwales
//all your doing is convnce me you have no idea whether the figure of £170 billion comes from fatticus... pie in the sky?//

Yeah, because nobody believes HM Treasury Department, do they?

Stop making yourself look silly, you’ve brought that knife to a gunfight again.
Do you believe every figure without checking whether it sounds a bit too good to be true. You still haven't been able to show me a company, show me there profit and how we could grab it on this sort of scale
Did you mean knight to a sunlight?
bobbinwales
//I argue cos your cherrypicking sites that suit you but not giving specifics//

PMSL, they’re mainstream sites.
Do you have any of your own to countermand the claims then?

Try this from a ‘cherrypicked’ site.
It’s explained so simply even you will understand it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60295177.amp

Let us know when you’ve found sites that have opposing views to the ones I submitted.
Indeed Douglas, bobbinwales doing his best to parody this.


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