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gulliver1 | 08:21 Tue 27th Sep 2022 | News
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CONS LABOUR
28% 45%
-4 +5 .......Oh Dear ,Oh Dear
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Unsurprising. But it's a long time until the next GE so anything can change. In any case, no party is worthy of anyone's vote.
https://sdp.org.uk/policies/

What is there not to like?
The usual suspect will insist on a link.

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-party-conference-live-starmer-embarces-blair-comparisons-as-labour-extends-poll-lead-over-conservatives-politics-latest-12593360

From that:

//Tory disquiet continues after more dire polling
Conservative MPs have noted the 17-point lead that pollsters YouGov have given Labour over the government.
Huw Merriman tweeted last night: "Those of us who backed Rishi Sunak lost the contest but this poll suggests that the victor is losing our voters with policies we warned against.
"For the good of our country, and the livelihoods of everyone in our country, I still hope to be proven wrong."
Mr Sunak spent much of the Tory leadership campaign mauling Liz Truss's economic plans.//

Seems Truss is causing a lot of infighting and disquiet amongst her Party already.
Has she actually been seen in public since Friday, or is Kwarteng being left to firefight the sch!t-storm by himself?
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Not looking good for Truss .
Old_Geezer
//Unsurprising. But it's a long time until the next GE so anything can change. In any case, no party is worthy of anyone's vote//

I’d hazard that given all the lies, law-breaking, sleaze, fiascos and f***-ups that the public believe that one party in particular are not worthy.
Not looking great for Starmer either if Labour supporters want Corbyn back in the party and some even want him as a minister as I mentioned to FatticusInch in his thread "72% Have No Confidence In Truss"
Seems a video has emerged too of Truss’s financial policy.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMF8y9bug/

I keep saying this, the next parliament will be a hung parliament. Labour will win back all, if not most of, the red wall seats. Without the red wall seats, the Tories won't have a majority and neither will Labour because they both need success in Scotland. And that aint gonna happen any time soon. So get ready for coalition!
Storm in a teacup Shedman, barely got a mention.
You’ll get loons in every party, not dissimilar to the jokers who want the chief clown back, but he’s going to be busy with the PSC looking into his misleading of Parliament.

Spin it however you like, the polls and even Truss’s backbenchers it seems would prefer Starmer in charge.
3 weeks into the job and she’s already in firefighting mode as the economy crashes and burns.
When she said we will deliver, it appears she was parodying the infamous Peter Kay sketch for 99% of the country but actually delivering for the top 1% and energy company bosses.
She’s been found out.
Aren't they the ones, Khan, that showed their true colours by joining the Libs and recently proved to be an anti-democracy party ? If so, so much for promises. If not, why be fooled twice ?
//as the economy crashes and burns.//

Hardly - the FTSE100 is still at levels similar to where it was pre-covid.
After Kwarteng’s giveaway budget was applauded by ABs Tories, I Asked a simple question…

// The polls next week will give an indication of how this is playing with the public.
Do you expect the Tory approval rating to bounce back after this? //

No one replied.

Now we have the answer.
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The Tory party will cease to exist at the next G/E ,
after the Brilliant speech by Rachel Reeves at the Labour Conference yesterday.
I wasn't spinning anything just saying what I heard on TV this morning and it was more than a mention. Nice to see you agree he is a loon. Also good to see you answer questions when put to you not like the one who started this thread.
Old_Geezer
//Aren't they the ones, Khan, that showed their true colours by joining the Libs and recently proved to be an anti-democracy party ? If so, so much for promises. If not, why be fooled twice ?//

Oh, you mean like the Liberal Democrat anti-monarchist Remainer Liz Truss?
She’s certainly fooling a tiny minority of Tory Party voters that she can competently run the country! PMSL
theshedman
//I wasn't spinning anything just saying what I heard on TV this morning and it was more than a mention. Nice to see you agree he is a loon. Also good to see you answer questions when put to you not like the one who started this thread.//

Of course he’s a loon and yes, I always answer questions.
Must admit though I’ve been waiting for a few of my own.
When certain posters claim ‘there is no alternative’ or that ‘Labour will be worse’ I always ask how and in comparison to what?

Worse than the lies, law-breaking, partying, unlawful proroguing, illegal lobbying, scandalous mis-managing PPE contracts with party donors, bullying ministers, resigning ethics advisers and covered-up predatory sexual behaviour?
Oddly, not a single answer in reply?!
Why would that be?
Maybe you could tell me how anyone but the Conservatives could actually be worse and in which ways?
OG, //Aren't they[SDP]the ones, Khan, that showed their true colours by joining the Libs and recently proved to be an anti-democracy party ?//
Anti-democracy! how's that? - link please.
The Tories were spooked by the prospect of losing the next General Election, and removed their leader.
When the contest turned out to be between Truss and Sunak, I said they had missed an opportunity. Instead of change, they voted for more of the same, and that is exactly what Truss has delivered.
They electorate didn’t like it from Johnson, and they certainly don’t like it from Truss.

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