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FatticusInch | 12:06 Thu 06th Oct 2022 | News
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-63150632.amp

In the current climate I reckon it’s a strong possibility.

/The Royal College of Nursing is balloting all of its UK members for strike action for the first time in its 106-year history.
The union is recommending its 300,000 members walk out over pay, with the result of the ballot due next month.
If strikes go ahead, the RCN says they would affect non-urgent but not emergency care.
The government has urged nurses to "carefully consider" the impact on patients./

……just after it removed the cap on bankers bonuses and attempted to increase the wealth of the top 1% in the country?
As a great character once said:
The impudence, the audacity, the unmitigated gall.

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"The country has a difficult winter ahead but the unions will make sure it’s even more difficult." I don't think we need worry too much now that we have a crack team in place with real world experience and the good of citizens at heart. Reasonable negotiations and not knee-jerk reaction will surely be the order of the day.
16:01 Thu 06th Oct 2022
I blame the Nursing Union Barons.
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Obviously the government will ignore all the evidence.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/more-40000-nurses-leave-nhs-28127459.amp
I'm sure if we all clap them they'll change their minds.
Health Care Assistants are the real NHS heroes - not the nurses.
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davebro
//Health Care Assistants are the real NHS heroes - not the nurses.//

The propensity to offend doesn’t abate.
I doubt any would describe even themselves as heroes, just want a decent rate of pay for their efforts.

Won’t the tellers be the heroes when the bankers are getting their uncapped bonuses shortly?
Bankers bonuses are not paid from the public purse.

The annual salary for NHS nurses is approx £15.5bn over approx 320k nurses - that's a mean average of approx £48.5k

They're asking for an eye-watering 5% on top of the rate of inflation, which will increase the bill by approx £2.5bn and take the average salary to approx £55k.

The BBC report says the average is £32k, so I assume that's the average basic and doesn't take into account overtime/agency work.

https://www.health.org.uk/publications/long-reads/where-next-for-nhs-nurses-pay

I have absolutely no issue with nurses receiving more money, but what they're asking for is bananas.

Victoria in the BBC link does not look as though "Sometimes you end up having not enough money to feed yourself..."
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I knew the rest of the gang wouldn’t be far behind……
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Deskdiary
//The annual salary for NHS nurses is approx £15.5bn over approx 320k nurses - that's a mean average of approx £48.5k//

But we’re not taking about a mean average, are we, otherwise every postman or bank employee would be on vastly more if we took a ‘mean average’ of their bosses/CEO pay, yes?
Mean average is in fact meaningless, isn’t it.

If nurses ‘mean average’ pay was going to be a projected(according to you) £55,000 then why have 40,000 of them just left the profession?
Something doesn’t appear to be adding up, does it?
It's a bit too early to speculate. For me anyway.
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But you speculated on this?

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Question1800536.html

And this?

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1732935.html

And this? Not even a link in this, but you speculated?!

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1706804.html

Still clutching at those straws I see? Never mind.



Yeah, but I didn't then go and write 'It's too early to speculate'

Until my attempt at humour as few mins ago, that is.
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Zacs-Master
//Yeah, but I didn't then go and write 'It's too early to speculate'

Until my attempt at humour as few mins ago, that is.//

Clearly……and on a stabbing thread too.

Hysterical.
Erm, it's on a Nursing thread.
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Zacs-Master
//Erm, it's on a Nursing thread.//

Nice try, but the PMSL was on the stabbing thread. How many more straws do you need?
Why people keep using bankers bonuses to justify increasing wages for public sector workers? These bonuses are NOT paid out of the public purse.
OK lets take this one step at a time. I know you Army lads are a bit slow sometimes.
1. I made an attempt at humour at 15.39 on THIS thread.
2. You brought up the fact that I'd speculated previously at 15.44.
3. I pointed out that I hadn't (previously) said it was too early to speculate at 15.46
4. At 15.49 you then saw fit, for some strange reason, to mention a completely separate thread where I'd pointed out the irony of you saying it was too early to speculate by providing links to threads where you had no such qualms about speculating.

I can't explain it any more simply I'm afraid.
‘Cos it’s something to get their knickers in a knot over, Dave. Anything will do.
Striking is a way for the small minded to experience a bit of power. See 'the miners vs Maggie' 1984.
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dave50
//Why people keep using bankers bonuses to justify increasing wages for public sector workers? These bonuses are NOT paid out of the public purse.//

Oh I’m sure you know…..however, I’m sure you recall when RBS went bust? Who bailed out the bank then?
The government, to the tune of £45 billion.
Fast-forward 2 years after it and we had this:
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2010/feb/25/rbs-3bn-loss-defends-bonuses

Can you see why other workers, essential or otherwise see a government who’d planned to reduce the tax bill of the highest earners in the land and uncap bankers bonuses might be a little bit miffed, because I certainly can!


Nurses are the middle grade in the NHS and when qualified are paid a pretty decent salary & well above the national average. For them even to consider strike action is an absolute disgrace. Shame on them.

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