Pensioners

[gulliver1]

Another Manifesto pledge broken by the Tories .
How many pensioners will vote Tory at the next G/E now that they have suspended the triple lock system on their state pensions. Typical Tory Trick The rich get rich and the pensioners get poorer.

[ToraToraTora]

"How many pensioners will vote Tory at the next G/E" - most of them.

[THECORBYLOON]

You forgot to ask for a link but here's one anyway,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63303880

[davebro]

Boris' fault

[pastafreak]

What I would like to say about Liz Truss is, unfortunately unprintable.
I think the Tories have said goodby to quite a few votes with this.

[naomi24]

Don’t be silly, Gulliver. Do you really think there are no Conservative pensioners? It isn’t a trick. Pledges like that are all very well in normal circumstances but it isn’t realistic to raise pensions in line with inflation when inflation is rising sharply. I keep saying it - but I’ll say it again. Everything has to be paid for - but those who continually complain never seem to understand that.

[davebro]

Any sensible pensioner realises that pensions (and wages incidentally) cannot rise by the current high level of inflation. Some workers may go on strike to try to get that but I doubt they will succeed. Pensioners will tighten their belts.

[douglas9401]

"...it isn’t realistic to raise pensions in line with inflation when inflation is rising sharply."

Yeah, it's all your own fault for not being rich so stop moaning.

Christ.

[naomi24]

I disagree with you, Douglas. I don’t think it’s the fault of the pensioners. How callous you are.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Pledges like that are all very well in normal circumstances but it isn’t realistic to raise pensions in line with inflation when inflation is rising sharply."

Good point but not one that Truss agreed with a fortnight ago when she said she was, "committed" to the triple lock.

[naomi24]

Don’t tell me, Corby. I know what she said.

[bhg481]

"...it isn’t realistic to raise pensions in line with inflation when inflation is rising sharply."

In other words, they only promised to do it because they thought it would never happen; an empty promise. They upset pensioners at their peril.

[naomi24]

We’ve had Covid and Ukraine since the last election, bhg, none of it anticipated. Best thing is probably to promise nothing. Then they can’t be wrong.

[davebro]

I'm a pensioner, I'm not upset. The triple lock was a come-on voting tactic - not a dyed in the wool never to be gone back on promise. Maybe some were fooled.

[THECORBYLOON]

NAOMI, my post was not directed only at you.

Truss has committed to spending 3% of GDP on defence by 2030 but not 2.5% by 2026.

If she cannot even commit to a pledge made two week ago, what chance is there with a 2030 pledge?

[gulliver1]

18 .30 According to the latest opinion polls Not only will the pensioners not vote Tory at the next G.E. It doesn't look like many people will.

[davebro]

do tell

come back when the date of the next GE is set

[douglas9401]

Got you davebro, like the whole bus thing.

[fiveleaves]

People wont vote to be worse off and that includes pensioners.
Hopefully the Tories are finished