Sunak

[gulliver1]

Rishi Sunak could be forced out of power within six months ,as fuming Tories cancel membership. Whilst some grass root Tories felt delighted with Sunak ,others were rattled that Tory menbers were not able to vote for who they wanted in no 10 this time. (So were the British Public no doubt) Even Johnson supporters are now calling for a general election After they think Sunak knifed their hero in the back. Bet these Tories have very sore feet these days.

[saintpeter48]

You're getting boring now, you'll get your wish of a general election in about 2 years and the Tories will be in power again, Labour have little chance with Starmer in charge, he doesn't even know what woman is!!!

[Deskdiary]

“Getting” boring, saintpeter?

That ship sailed a very very long time ago.

[naomi24]

Gulliver, the British public NEVER get to vote for Prime Minister. Your posts wouldn’t be quite so tedious if you knew what you were talking about - but you don’t.

[DTCwordfan]

The naivety of some of those living in foreign climes is astonishing at times - and deafening.

[Untitled]

British voters don’t elect their pm directly but they do in practise vote for which party they would like to be governed by (and therefore which leadership team they liked best)

sunak was not even on the list of likely/possible successors for johnson in 2019… he was a junior minister from an extremely safe seat… i doubt even his constituents knew who he was.

Truss at least was already a front bencher and had a national profile… it was conceivable-ish she might take over should johnson die or leave office

i don’t think it’s unfair to say he doesn’t have a mandate

[Gromit]

Sunak will not be forced to quit in 6 months because Conservative members were denied a vote.
Theresa May also became leader without a contest and vote, and there was no mutiny. Well not for 2 years, and for a different reason.

[Untitled]

Theresa May was only the first leader change of that parliament and was already a political bigwig at the time of the previous election... the tories have now had two and chose someone who was completely unknown the last time the electorate had a say

they are taking the pee frankly

[naomi24]

That’s contradictory. If British voters elect the party they’d like to be governed by - which they do - then that party has a mandate.

[naomi24]

^that to untitled.

[Untitled]

the party leadership is completely different now though... one leadership change in one parliament is not uncommon under our system... i did not object to truss being selected (well except to disagree with her but I saw no cause for an election then)... but doing it twice is a bit of a travesty

[Untitled]

Imagine if labour won an election then changed leader to angela rayner and then changed again a few weeks later to some unknown Corbynite who'd been a backbencher at the last election...

it would be a bit dodgy to keep going on the same mandate

[naomi24]

They would have that option.

[jno]

the Germans at least are impressed...

https://en.kiosko.net/de/np/tageszeitung.html

[Untitled]

they would yes... but it would be pretty dodgy

[Spicerack]

Some people expect him to leave voluntarily after 6 months or so, having carried out the mission for which he was carefully engineered into place.

[naomi24]

Why? If the party has the mandate because it was elected it doesn’t lose it because it changes leaders.

[Untitled]

because people vote for parties in large part based on what they think of the leadership... lots of erstwhile labour supporters for example did not feel they could vote for the party while corbyn and his team were in charge of it.

to change leaders so radically and multiple times is technically allowed but it is dodgy... to take it to a silly extreme imagine if a given party started changing leadership every month after winning an election... i would argue in that instance the original mandate is completely overriden.

[Spicerack]

When I tried to translate the story in your link, jno, it disappeared.
(cue twilight zone music)

[naomi24]

Frankly, in my opinion, Boris held the mandate… but there you are. We’re left with Pygmies riding on the shoulders of a giant.

[Untitled]

i can understand that for sure