Why Do So Many Want To Live Here?

[ToraToraTora]

To listen to many ABers we are a basket case and they hate their own nation. They seem to want us to be ruled by the EUSSR yet, the Channel seems to be full of people risking life and limb to get here. So are they mad? why do they not apply in the Utopia that is the EUSSR? I just don't get it. Why do people want to live in our "terrible" country?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63959729

[andy-hughes]

A somewhat simplistic answer is that, while other countries in Europe have more generous welfare systems than the UK, nowhere in earth has a welfare system that is so easily accessed by people who have no entitlement to it whatsoever.

[ToraToraTora]

Is that the case Andy? Most of the 5C seem to tell us that actually EUSSR countries are much more generous.

[JimF]

Lots of data here from research done by Oxford University:

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/

[THECORBYLOON]

ANDY, on what basis are these folk with no entitlement given access to our welfare system?

[JimF]

Since 23 October 2017, all NHS trusts and NHS foundation trusts must record when a person is an overseas visitor. All overseas visitors are charged 150% of the cost of NHS treatment for any care they receive, unless they are exempt from charges for NHS hospital treatment.

[Togo]

//unless they are exempt from charges for NHS hospital treatment.//

What are the parameters that render the illegal, or indeed recently admitted, immigrants exempt from charges? What is the chance of immigrants who are not entitled or deserving of treatment receiving it and scarpering before they are charged, or are they charged before treatment? Is there a waiting list for treatment for the non indigenous, or do they get priority attention in case the Gubment is sued for contravening you man rites guidelines?

[DTCwordfan]

bcause they want to subscribe to you, TTT, and live in your 'hallowed' land.

[choux]

TTT, you ask the very same question that Chris Mason put to the Prime Minister today, shown on the 6 p.m. BBC news:
"Prime Minister, why do so many people want to come here?
Is it because we have a reputation of being a soft touch?"

Mason didn't get a straight answer either.

[ToraToraTora]

choux, fair enough but the 5C tell me that we are not the softest of touches, there are many countries offering better everything than us, apparently.

[andy-hughes]

As I pointed out, other countries may pay more in welfare, but ours is clearly and obviously the most accessible.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANDY, without entitlement, how are they getting access to our welfare system?

[andy-hughes]

Corby - The answer to your question about the accessibility to the welfare system is admirably demonstrated by the fact that two if the biggest hotels in the city where I live have been instantly booked to capacity to house migrants.

The fact that, on arrival, these people have a warm roof over their heads, and food in their stomachs, means they have leapfrogged over any and all of the homeless people who sleep on the streets outside those hotels every night, and beg for money for food every day.

[choux]

TTT, every time you write 5C I am reminded of the TV series Please Sir! Just my thought for the day ;)

[THECORBYLOON]

ANDY, given that they are in this country, how and where would you prefer them to be housed?

If there is no entitlement to the current arrangement, what legislation is being contravened?

[andy-hughes]

Corby - the government could knock up basic prefab camps in weeks.

In the two hotels here, eight weddings, booked for more than twelve months, have been cancelled with a scant few weeks notice.

Whatever 'policy' the government is running, it is disadvataging local citizens, and that is wrong.

[Zacs-Master]

Camps is a rather emotive word. Anyone any idea of the cost of building such places, heating and lighting them, fitting them out with beds, furniture etc?

Would the people housed in them be free to leave or would there be guards?

[andy-hughes]

Zacs - rather less than the advised eight million a year that the hotel system is costing.

I'll ignore the rest of your post, I'm sure you'll understand.

[Zacs-Master]

You know the costs for a fact do you, Andy?

[andy-hughes]

No Zacs, that's why the amount is prefixed with the word 'advised'.

You need to read before you react, it will save us both time.

[Zacs-Master]

I meant, how do you know it will cost less than £8m to build these ‘camps’.

On someone else’s thread you’ve written ‘Jeff's 'accuracy' comes from regurgitating any average news feed and ant tabloid columnist’. Where does yours come from?