Why When Brexit Is Going So Well, Do We Have Someone Who Backed Brexit Saying This In The House Of Lords?

[Hymie]

[naomi24]

I don't believe setting a deadline for a bill to be passed equates to setting a deadline for finalising all the changes that bill will allow. I imagine that will go on over a number of years. Your constant hysteria is unnecessary, hymie.

[Hymie]

The deadline (of the end of 2023) is set within the Bill itself – no hysterics required.

[naomi24]

What does it say?

[Hymie]

The following are revoked at the end of 2023 —
(a) EU-derived subordinate legislation;
(b) retained direct EU legislation.

[Gromit]

After mad ideology that plunged this country into crisis under Truss, it is sad to see the same Tory ideology still being dispensed by her replacement.

The retained EU law (revocation and reform) bill is a very dangerous piece of legislation. It is a power grab by the Government. Not debated in the Commons, it expunges 2,400 laws, and gives us no idea of what will replace them. No deadline for when replacements will be ready, and what happens in the intervening years. It is legal anarchy concocted by cabal of right wing loonies in Downing Street. It is as if they learned nothing from Truss’s disastrous tenure, and the barminess continues afoot.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-03/0156/en/220156en.pdf

[naomi24]

I wouldn't read that as meaning changes must be enacted by that date. It makes no sense for our government to introduce legislation that restricts them in such a way…. but here's a thought. If you're thinking straight - and I don't believe you are - you've got to be happy with that because it means we will be bound forever by laws instigated by the EU - whether they suit us or not and whether we like it or not.

[Hymie]

Since that government document in Gromit’s link was published, more than 1,600 additional laws were identified (as falling within the Bill’s remit) – taking the total to more than 4,000.

[Hymie]

Very little that this government does makes sense.

[ToraToraTora]

I feel like rejoining just to shut hymie up!

[Gromit]

They want to kill 2,400 laws on 31st December 2023. What happens after that?
They haven’t suggested replacements. 40 years worth of jettisoned legislation will take decades to be replaced and enacted by the UK parliament.
Everyone of those 2,400 laws have already been debated over 40 years, and anything not in the UK’s we could and did opt out of.

The sensible approach would be to replace EU laws one by one starting with the ones we most do not like. Propose sensible replacement law and get that agreed by parliament. But instead ideology triumphs over being sensible.

[naomi24]

Don't panic, gromit. We'll survive.

[Gromit]

* not in the UK’s interest, we could and did opt out of.

[Gromit]

I am not panicking naomi. Anarchy will be a fitting end to 13 years of terrible government.

[Zacs-Master]

We will survive but survival wasn’t what we were promised as a result of Brexit, was it. Sunlit uplands was one forecast as we well know. Well, we’re a helluva long way from that.

[naomi24]

Is that your hope, gromit?

[Gromit]

// Is that your hope //

No. I would rather it didn’t happen.
But surely anarchy follows if law and order is gone.

[naomi24]

It won't be. Stop panicking. You'll upset the naïve.

[Gromit]

You sleep walked to Johnson’s demise, you sleep walked the Truss debacle. No surprise you seem to be in an alternate reality as far as the final days of the present government is concerned.

[naomi24]

No sleep walking here, gromit.

[bobbinwales]

Well in the highly unlikely event that things likematernity payare scrapped there will be a new goverment next year who'll reverse it. But do you really really think the Cons would slash rights and benefits just before an election???