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The problem is that people of faith are not people of reason. They believe that their god or old book should hold sway over everyone else's behaviour. They don't seek to persuade, they seek to convert. They don't seek to serve the human beings of their nation, they seek to serve their god's rules.
17:56 Sat 25th Feb 2023
bit of a bigoted view of religious people atheist... is it really true that every last religious person is without reason?
Ironic that the Christian contender is castigated for telling the truth but the Muslim man makes an excuse for avoiding the vote and that’s ok.

Atheist, in general agreement with you, except the religionists are selective over which of their g/God's pronouncements to believe in and act on.
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That isn’t unique to Scotland, ynna.
It shouldn't be a matter of the faith they claim to follow, but their ability to do the job . Sometimes all a faith does is give a person a few rules as to how to live in a modest, and decent manner, it's only when they drift into fundamentalism there tends to be a problem. I don't think anyone has a problem with live modestly, care for those in need, respect marriage/ your elders/ your family. That seems to be at the core of most beliefs and also at the core of many peoples moral compass. Religions were created to moderate,and control people's behaviour, it's not surprising they have values in common. Even dietary rules arose from the need to avoid food that was potentially harmful in a middle East pre refrigeration and safe husbandry practice.
Maybe we should make less of religion and more of character, intellect and ability
No,but the hate that oozes out of the Scottish nationalists and separatists does make one wonder....
So little logic to it, it is right we have distinct national identities, the six nations would be very odd without it. Economically it might even be possible to increase the separation but I believe on the whole the English like the Scots, they are our wild cousins who always get into fights at weddings, while at the same time being the best allies against real enemies. If you really want to leave, we would go ' OK then, but can we still come to yours for New years eve.,'
Thanks for that mod......a waste of time coming on here.....why was my posting removed?
///the religionists are selective over which of their g/God's pronouncements to believe in and act on. ///

so they make up their own minds? Shameless!

No, they follow what their priest tells them. Sheep.
that's not what Christians I've known do, drmorgans. They do indeed make up their own minds.
A person's faith shouldn't be a consideration nor an active part in ones commitment to doing a job.. fitness to deliver and in an unbiased, balanced and measured way, is what matters..young Forbes seems likely to me
Forbes? Is that the one that belongs to the high church of boobaas?
She won’t go down well either.
As far as I can make out all three candidates would oppose Sturgeon's 'trans' self-declaration bill. The Christian and the Muslim both oppose same-sex marriage -but one has the courage to say so and the other hid his beliefs by arranging a prior appointment when the vote took place.
So why is Kate Forbes being singled out particularly? It can only be because she cites her Christian religion. Approx. 50% of this country says they hold basic Christian beliefs, many others hold Muslim beliefs (which are more extreme on the issue of homosexuality). It comes back to why pick on the Christian?

I was a little unsettled by Atheist's post - when has anyone ever heard me proselytise? I even resigned from our PCC because I did not agree with Justin Welby. I don't know anyone who actively seeks to convert anyone, except by keeping the church open and welcoming and being nice to people and helping them as much as possible e.g. we supply a food bank by donating and making it easy for locals to donate.

It's odd that there is so much prejudice.
"i was a little unsettled by Atheists post",yes me to,jourdain,however he is one of the AB clique.Been reported numerous times,never been suspended.Strange.
JOURDAIN, "Approx. 50% of this country says they hold basic Christian beliefs"

Where does that figure come from and what is meant by, "basic Christian beliefs"?
The results of the recently released census TCL. I think there were lots of headlines saying that those filling in 'religion' as 'Christian' had just dropped below 50% (49.?%, I can't remember exactly)for the first time, but that there was a rise in those saying 'muslim'.
I wondered if it had been the latest Census but it was the reference to, "basic Christian beliefs" that confused me since that could mean different things to different folk.

According to the Office for National Statistics, 46.2% of those in England and Wales answered, "Christian" to the question, "What is your religion?" but again, that gives no indication as to which aspects of that faith they follow.
TCL I can't answer precisely, obviously, but I assume that they believe in the Holy Trinity, which is as basic as you can get.

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