Are The Trans Figures Scewed?

[youngmafbog]

//Carl Heneghan, director of Oxford University's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, said the ONS findings could be 'biased' because it does not do fieldwork to test their validity.//

//Dr Biggs claimed this question was decided upon after consultation with pro-transgender rights lobby groups and the ONS 'never thought about how a Bangladeshi grandmother or a Hungarian plumber will think about this question'.//

Seems the usual stats rubbish in rubbish out!

[davebro]

link?

[bobbinwales]

A link might help. What was the question people were asked???

[bobbinwales]

Ah skewed... iread it twice as screwed

[youngmafbog]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11966765/Fears-transgender-issues-exaggerated-trans-population-overestimated-census.html

Appologies

[naomi24]

Someone's had a light bulb moment.

[Deskdiary]

Slightly off-topic (sorry) but it appears the advertising by large corporations in their desire to appear oh so right-on is biting them on the backside.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11966751/NANA-AKUA-trans-TikTok-personality-Dylan-Mulvaney-promoted-Bud-Light-sales-fallen.html

Apparently sales of Bud Light have fallen by 70% and there's a boycott of Nike.

Good.

Transgender people account for about 0.5%, so if the ONS are correct, this figure could be over-egged, but even if it isn't the simple fact of the matter is that they are a very very tiny (but very very vocal) minority.

[mushroom25]

// Apparently sales of Bud Light have fallen by 70% //

you couldn't make it up - a beverage pretending to be beer advertised by a person pretending to be female....... :-D

[barry1010]

The thing I find quite amusing is that there has always been transgender people living in the community, long before surgery was possible. Today some choose to have surgery, others don't.
Trans women have been quietly using public ladies toilets and changing rooms all this time without attracting attention. A former racing driver and RAF pilot was able to change his birth certificate from 'male' to 'female' after surgery in 1950 - over 70 years ago https://www.ucl.ac.uk/campaign/roberta-cowell#:~:text=Roberta%20Elizabeth%20Marshall%20Cowell%20(1918,to%2Dfemale%20sex%20reassignment%20surgery

[bobbinwales]

Interesting Barry.. I dint know ops were done in them days..
He /she had xx chromosomes and was declared intersex after having g her transgender friend cut off his tenstacles....
Interesting that she still condemed some transgender's ....those with xy ..as 'freaks'

[sp1814]

`Deskdiary

That 70% figure is incorrect. Sales have risen slightly. I saw a piece about that a couple of nights ago - apparently the figure came from a right-leaning website and was almost immediately debunked.

I'd argue that transgender people are not the noisy ones. It seems that most of the conversation about trans rights comes from the political right.

[barry1010]

I think the first trans male to female surgery took place in 1931 in Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_Richter

[naomi24]

//I'd argue that transgender people are not the noisy ones. It seems that most of the conversation about trans rights comes from the political right. //

It's not the political right who are demanding special treatment for those who claim to be trans, and it's not the political right who are introducing trans ideas into schools, businesses and other institutions.

[Untitled]

trans people have never claimed to be more than a very small minority of people

[sp1814]

No - it's the political right. They're banning books, cancelling drag shows for kids and demonising transgender and gay people in an effort to stoke up the flames of the so called culture wars.

Hopefully if credulous people focus on this, then there's every chance they'll ignore the bigger picture (failing economy being up there).

[sp1814]

Also - the 70% figure is nonsense.

Literally just been made up - and believed!!!!

[sp1814]

According to the ONS, "its gender identity census results were 'broadly consistent with NHS data collected in the same year".

So...I'm going to believe them...

[ToraToraTora]

of course they are skewed, these attention seekers are rare, yet to read the media you could be forgiven for thinking they are 50% of the population.

[sp1814]

TTT

You're doing a Hitchens!

The figures are "broadly consistent" with NHS stats.

[sp1814]

TTT

"yet to read the media you could be forgiven for thinking they are 50% of the population."

Do you see what you're saying there?

[ToraToraTora]

well the amount of "provision" for them does give the impression they are much more common sp.