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Raab Has Resigned
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We come to it. The unelected and partisan snivel serpents once again further their own agenda of defying the electorate by taking down one of its's defenders. Bit by bit they are rendering elections and indeed referendums meaningless. It is now established fact, by the setting of this precedent, that to, ask a public employee(we all pay them) to be productive or to indeed do what they are told is bullying. To suggest that what little they do is inadequate now sends them into a spiral of mental illness(confected). Politicians now find that after giving in to the vociferous "hurt feelings" brigades that they are now it's fodder. Didn't Churchill once say something about feeding the crocodiles hoping that they didn't eat you? Those who are paid to administer Government policy are sadly all still in thrall to their chosen masters in Brussels They have become the Leftwaffe in a new Battle of Britain and if we do not eradicate them, as we did before, then we are not fit to govern ourselves. The little bloke on the ill fitting suit will not sort this out. Reform is needed.
Well, I would have some sympathy to your cause if this was a frequent occurrence across multiple ministers. But Raab is an almost unique offender in both the length and breadth of those he's butts headed with. He obviously fancy himself rotten, better than anybody else he has to work with. He's almost the opposite of Matt Hancock.
Until we teach the, paid by public, servants that they are answerable to the vote casting populace of GB they will continue to behave as if they belong to the unelected head boy in Brussels. Raab once accurately stated that 'May has Allowed UK to Be ‘Bullied and Blackmailed’ by Brussels, in the exit "negotiations", and Brexit is now fatally flawed!' The snivel service fully supported May and her treacherous undemocratic dealings and set Raab as target no1 when she was rightly ousted from power. Had they succeeded in their joint coup d'éta designed to relegate GB to vassal state for ever, and thereby ensuring their own life of ease and plenty at our expense, we would only have recovered our independence with violent action. Oh they have every reason to hate Raab believe me. BTW I am not a fan of his, or the little man in a suit that is too small for him.
I am on Raab's side
esp the " I did it all, but 4 werent bullying"
I Ay was accused of harassment by someone who just didnt want to do X,
and my employer took the view that her case of harassment relieved them of the need to obey the Employment Act. and I was going like "can you get one of your lawyers to look at this..."
and
"you are gonna do what I asked her to do ( well told actually) because there is a law that says she has to do it and she hasnt,"
and they were going like: we deem that she has.....
esp the " I did it all, but 4 werent bullying"
I Ay was accused of harassment by someone who just didnt want to do X,
and my employer took the view that her case of harassment relieved them of the need to obey the Employment Act. and I was going like "can you get one of your lawyers to look at this..."
and
"you are gonna do what I asked her to do ( well told actually) because there is a law that says she has to do it and she hasnt,"
and they were going like: we deem that she has.....
// Until we teach the, paid by public, servants that they are answerable to the vote casting populace of GB... //
But, that's kind of the point of the Civil Service. They *aren't* answerable to the "vote casting populace". That's what politicians are for. The Civil Service is there to carry out the the policy of their Ministers, to advise, to consult, and to do so apolitically.
Whether or not they do this effectively is, perhaps, up for debate, but what should clearly *not* be up for debate is the idea that they are directly answerable to the voters. They are not; they never were; they will never be; they must never be.
But, that's kind of the point of the Civil Service. They *aren't* answerable to the "vote casting populace". That's what politicians are for. The Civil Service is there to carry out the the policy of their Ministers, to advise, to consult, and to do so apolitically.
Whether or not they do this effectively is, perhaps, up for debate, but what should clearly *not* be up for debate is the idea that they are directly answerable to the voters. They are not; they never were; they will never be; they must never be.
You'd like an elected Civil Service, Togo? Be careful what you wish for.
And even then, it wouldn't stop bullying and terrible Governments.
Political parties are hardly "answerable to the vote casting populace". As TTT proudly proclaims, a Conservative party of one sort or another has been in power since 1979. There are a lot more problems with MPs and political parties than with the Civil Service.
And even then, it wouldn't stop bullying and terrible Governments.
Political parties are hardly "answerable to the vote casting populace". As TTT proudly proclaims, a Conservative party of one sort or another has been in power since 1979. There are a lot more problems with MPs and political parties than with the Civil Service.
> The thing is with the civil service it's a case of the tail wagging the dog.
No it isn't, and ever has been. It isn't the Civil Service has changing, it's a faction of the Conservative Party. Dominic Raab, Priti Patel (who apologised but did not resign and was not sacked), Gavin Richardson (who was complained about not by the Civil Service, but by another Conservative MP) ... prima donnas, not team players.
No it isn't, and ever has been. It isn't the Civil Service has changing, it's a faction of the Conservative Party. Dominic Raab, Priti Patel (who apologised but did not resign and was not sacked), Gavin Richardson (who was complained about not by the Civil Service, but by another Conservative MP) ... prima donnas, not team players.
retrocop
And surely you bosses who were able to do that without bullying their staff?
The best bosses I had were the ones who were demanded the best from their staff and encouraged excellence - they were the ones who ended up being respected - not the ones who had to resign.
I think too many people are assuming those who have complained are just snowflakes whereas the truth may be that they’re calling out unprofessional behaviour.
If you had a boss who was clearly a dick, isn’t it right that you say so?
And surely you bosses who were able to do that without bullying their staff?
The best bosses I had were the ones who were demanded the best from their staff and encouraged excellence - they were the ones who ended up being respected - not the ones who had to resign.
I think too many people are assuming those who have complained are just snowflakes whereas the truth may be that they’re calling out unprofessional behaviour.
If you had a boss who was clearly a dick, isn’t it right that you say so?
retrocop
What did people do in the 70s when they realised they were working for ineffective bullies who’d been promoted above their abilities?
I ask because looking back, we can now see ‘the issues’ the force had (and to a certain extent still have).
The great thing about where we are now is that you can call out these people. In the past, they could sail through to their pension.
What did people do in the 70s when they realised they were working for ineffective bullies who’d been promoted above their abilities?
I ask because looking back, we can now see ‘the issues’ the force had (and to a certain extent still have).
The great thing about where we are now is that you can call out these people. In the past, they could sail through to their pension.
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